Speaker recommendations...

DrNumbers · 11-05-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by avantcrap

...While I’ll never get true audiophile quality sound in a car, no matter how much I spend....

How dare you make such a claim... I'm not happy with that statement.. lol.

On a side note, you've now gone over your budget already for the system, which isn't surprising since I've never met one person that has stayed in their budget range. If you want to truly keep the cost low, look up Hivi B3N for use as a mid-range. I think you'll be amazed at the sound quality from such a cheap speaker.

I think Ron mentioned at one point a really cheap mid-bass as well that he runs in the off-season instead of the Stereo Integrity mids. You can get good sound for pretty cheap.

avantcrap · 11-05-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNumbers

How dare you make such a claim... I'm not happy with that statement.. lol.

On a side note, you've now gone over your budget already for the system, which isn't surprising since I've never met one person that has stayed in their budget range. If you want to truly keep the cost low, look up Hivi B3N for use as a mid-range. I think you'll be amazed at the sound quality from such a cheap speaker.

I think Ron mentioned at one point a really cheap mid-bass as well that he runs in the off-season instead of the Stereo Integrity mids. You can get good sound for pretty cheap.

Well. I have a hifi system at home that will always outclass car audio, especially in a car with such a road noise issue.

I am ok with going above budget some. Christmas is fast approaching

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avantcrap · 11-05-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNumbers

How dare you make such a claim... I'm not happy with that statement.. lol.

On a side note, you've now gone over your budget already for the system, which isn't surprising since I've never met one person that has stayed in their budget range. If you want to truly keep the cost low, look up Hivi B3N for use as a mid-range. I think you'll be amazed at the sound quality from such a cheap speaker.

I think Ron mentioned at one point a really cheap mid-bass as well that he runs in the off-season instead of the Stereo Integrity mids. You can get good sound for pretty cheap.

I may be able to shave some $ off by getting a different amp or dsp or buying used ones, however.

Amp wise I want to be sure it’s 5 channel, and provides enough power on the 5th channel to drive the sub which wants between 200-400w for its happy zone.

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RonRizz · 11-05-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNumbers

I think Ron mentioned at one point a really cheap mid-bass as well that he runs in the off-season instead of the Stereo Integrity mids. You can get good sound for pretty cheap.

Yup. The Lanzar OPTI-6pm Midbass. https://www.parts-express.com/lanzar...aker--292-2598

avantcrap · 11-05-2018, 08:50 PM

The stereo integrity guys got back to me and said that the arc amp delivers sub par power for the subwoofer. They recommended this:

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500PDX...SABEgKcA_D_BwE

The problem with this amp is it’s size. It’s too wide to fit in the space it needs to go in. From what I measured, about 6.5 inches is the max width. See the photo below to see where I’d like to put it.

I also managed to snag a NIB zapco for $150. If I can find a good deal on the amp I could get the total cost of all the gear down within my original budget. Then it's just install costs, which won't be cheap either.

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bigaudiofanat · 11-06-2018, 08:25 AM

While I agree with a pro install and the benefits of going active. Unless the tuner at the shop has done their fair share of DSP installs with active setups, it can turn out bad. I've had a hand full of customers come to me after a pro installer put their DSP in and tuned it. Only to find out they set it up passive and hid the crossovers. Do your research with the shops if you're going to go active.

PS the stereo integrity mid mass are awesome just make sure you can run them at the ohms rating they want so you don't fry your amp. I actually have a set sitting in my basement.

avantcrap · 11-06-2018, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

While I agree with a pro install and the benefits of going active. Unless the tuner at the shop has done their fair share of DSP installs with active setups, it can turn out bad. I've had a hand full of customers come to me after a pro installer put their DSP in and tuned it. Only to find out they set it up passive and hid the crossovers. Do your research with the shops if you're going to go active.

PS the stereo integrity mid mass are awesome just make sure you can run them at the ohms rating they want so you don't fry your amp. I actually have a set sitting in my basement.

Yeah. I don't plan on just using some random shop. Theres a small handful of really reputable shops in the Atlanta area that I'll be reaching out to once I have everything set in stone as far as what I want to do. That way I can have a discussion about it and see if it's something they have experience with and are comfortable doing. Most of them have experience with building super custom setups for people, so this should be relatively straight forward for them. Should being the keyword there.

DrNumbers · 11-10-2018, 05:33 PM

Just a thought for tuning - You could head out to a car audio competition (MECA, IASCA) and ask/pay someone there to tune your car. I've gotten some great help and advice from fellow competitors in MECA. In fact, I'd recommend doing this over paying a shop to tune.

Installs and tuning are two completely different ballgames. A shop that does amazing installs won't necessarily be able to do a good tune, although they are going to tell you otherwise. I went to one shop over the past summer that has done immaculate installs, and asked the owner to tune my car just to see how it would end up sounding. He made the audio so much less dynamic over my previous tune, but he thought it sounded great.

bigaudiofanat · 11-14-2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNumbers

Just a thought for tuning - You could head out to a car audio competition (MECA, IASCA) and ask/pay someone there to tune your car. I've gotten some great help and advice from fellow competitors in MECA. In fact, I'd recommend doing this over paying a shop to tune.

Installs and tuning are two completely different ballgames. A shop that does amazing installs won't necessarily be able to do a good tune, although they are going to tell you otherwise. I went to one shop over the past summer that has done immaculate installs, and asked the owner to tune my car just to see how it would end up sounding. He made the audio so much less dynamic over my previous tune, but he thought it sounded great.

You could as long as the person competing didn't have a shop do it for them but also keep in mind everyone's taste in what it should sound like can be different. Also tuning can take up to 2 weeks as mine has taken a month.

MEZZZER · 11-17-2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by avantcrap

I may be able to shave some $ off by getting a different amp or dsp or buying used ones, however.

Amp wise I want to be sure it’s 5 channel, and provides enough power on the 5th channel to drive the sub which wants between 200-400w for its happy zone.

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I went with a Soundstream, 5 channel, myself. Works well for the 370. MB Quart tweeters in dash, Focal 6.5" 2-way in the doors, Soundstream 3.5" 2-way, in Qtrs and American Bass ES shallow mount 10" Sub in corner box.

avantcrap · 11-17-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MEZZZER

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I went with a Soundstream, 5 channel, myself. Works well for the 370. MB Quart tweeters in dash, Focal 6.5" 2-way in the doors, Soundstream 3.5" 2-way, in Qtrs and American Bass ES shallow mount 10" Sub in corner box.

Nice. I'm trying to do a stealth system though. I don't want to lose cargo room (lol) or functionality.

I've been thinking on it more and it may be wiser to go for speakers with crossovers as I'm looking for a fairly straight forward install.

11-05-2018, 08:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
avantcrap Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: atlanta area Posts: 224 Drives: 2013 370z Rep Power: 11	Speaker recommendations... The stereo integrity guys got back to me and said that the arc amp delivers sub par power for the subwoofer. They recommended this: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500PDX...SABEgKcA_D_BwE The problem with this amp is it’s size. It’s too wide to fit in the space it needs to go in. From what I measured, about 6.5 inches is the max width. See the photo below to see where I’d like to put it. I also managed to snag a NIB zapco for $150. If I can find a good deal on the amp I could get the total cost of all the gear down within my original budget. Then it's just install costs, which won't be cheap either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by avantcrap; 11-06-2018 at 01:44 AM.

11-06-2018, 08:25 AM	#21 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	While I agree with a pro install and the benefits of going active. Unless the tuner at the shop has done their fair share of DSP installs with active setups, it can turn out bad. I've had a hand full of customers come to me after a pro installer put their DSP in and tuned it. Only to find out they set it up passive and hid the crossovers. Do your research with the shops if you're going to go active. PS the stereo integrity mid mass are awesome just make sure you can run them at the ohms rating they want so you don't fry your amp. I actually have a set sitting in my basement. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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11-10-2018, 05:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
DrNumbers Base Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: SoCal Posts: 71 Drives: 2016 370Z Rep Power: 8	Just a thought for tuning - You could head out to a car audio competition (MECA, IASCA) and ask/pay someone there to tune your car. I've gotten some great help and advice from fellow competitors in MECA. In fact, I'd recommend doing this over paying a shop to tune. Installs and tuning are two completely different ballgames. A shop that does amazing installs won't necessarily be able to do a good tune, although they are going to tell you otherwise. I went to one shop over the past summer that has done immaculate installs, and asked the owner to tune my car just to see how it would end up sounding. He made the audio so much less dynamic over my previous tune, but he thought it sounded great.