Re: Rear Speakers or None?

JB-370z · 12-15-2009, 10:32 PM

I never liked the kappas they are yucky!

bigaudiofanat · 12-15-2009, 10:57 PM

I agree

vipor · 12-15-2009, 11:00 PM

the reference series was much better

bigaudiofanat · 12-15-2009, 11:04 PM

I still do not much care for infinity speakers now their amps I do like.

vipor · 12-15-2009, 11:07 PM

i actually came to like MTX speakers when we were distributing them a few years back. if set up correctly they could thump or SQ

speedfreak28 · 12-16-2009, 02:33 AM

Rear fill is all a matter of personal preference, A good front stage is more than enough in a 2 door car but if you want sound behind you go fir it. A true SQ install may sound boring to most people. The goal is to achieve a flat curve on a RTA ( basically the speaker produces the same level of sound output at all frequencies it is tuned to)
Do whats pleasing to your ears because for every day installs geared toward SQ its very subjective. What sounds good to you may not sound good to someone else. Another way to use a rear speaker is to fit a 6.5 and use it as a dedicated midbass. The human ear has a harder time locating a speaker producing low frequencies.

hoodust · 12-16-2009, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor

i actually came to like MTX speakers when we were distributing them a few years back. if set up correctly they could thump or SQ

Nothing beats MTX imho, at least for woofers.

I'd have to agree with not really needing rear speaks -- I mean it's a two-seater after all and you can't notice at all unless you turn your head. If anything I'd add a bit more low range back there but 3.5" is not going to cut it for anything lower than a mid-bass (and who wants midrange frequencies coming from behind them??).

Along this topic, I think the sound quality from my base model is very good for a stock (base model) setup, but I have a question... the dealer told me the sound system is still made by Bose, it just isn't branded. Any truth to that you think?

M.J. · 12-16-2009, 04:36 AM

I've got rear speakers in mine. There are lots of people here that don't like rear speakers. I think speedfreak28 said it very well, "Rear fill is all a matter of personal preference."

Matt · 12-16-2009, 08:46 AM

All of my cars that could fit 6x9/6.5s in the back had them and sounded great. My 72 bug only has 6x9s in the rear and sounds great (Boston). I just don't see the need to add a set of 3" or 4" speakers in the Z.

bigaudiofanat · 12-16-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

All of my cars that could fit 6x9/6.5s in the back had them and sounded great. My 72 bug only has 6x9s in the rear and sounds great (Boston). I just don't see the need to add a set of 3" or 4" speakers in the Z.

Now I use to have 6x9's in my honda's but after finding out how good it sounded with just fronts and no more echoing effects coming from the back. I was hooked. Now for those who went to their dealers when they figured out that their was no sound coming form the back. They are use to having rears.

cab83_750 · 12-17-2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreak28

Rear fill is all a matter of personal preference, A good front stage is more than enough in a 2 door car but if you want sound behind you go fir it. A true SQ install may sound boring to most people. The goal is to achieve a flat curve on a RTA ( basically the speaker produces the same level of sound output at all frequencies it is tuned to)
Do whats pleasing to your ears because for every day installs geared toward SQ its very subjective. What sounds good to you may not sound good to someone else. Another way to use a rear speaker is to fit a 6.5 and use it as a dedicated midbass. The human ear has a harder time locating a speaker producing low frequencies.

Rear fill is always required for us in SAn Francisco or Philadelphia!!!!

on a serious note, I have Dynaudio components, PPI amp, HD Headunit and 2 boxes of Tand Band subs behind the seats. It is true that after about 5 minutes of driving I can no longer tell that I don't have rear speaker. My pending instAllation of the rears is just a curiosity to determine if I do or don't have the final audio setup.

As we all say, "a personal preference."

hoodust · 12-17-2009, 01:39 AM

More than rear-fill, I'd consider them for potentially better stereo sound staging is all. But with the seats there I'm not sure rears would help that anyway.

bigaudiofanat · 12-17-2009, 08:04 AM

Staging is all about what is in front of you not what is in rear. Think of it as a stage of a concert your sound is coming from in front of you not behind. When you add rears it is no long stereo.

OldGuy · 12-17-2009, 08:40 AM

Thanks to everyone for all their thoughtful responses. Main thing is that I wanted to make sure the no-rear speaker situation was legitimate and not a loose wire or something. I'm going to leave well enough alone. Much of the time, I'm just listening to Rush Limbaugh and NPR news stuff anyway.

Mike · 12-17-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy

Thanks to everyone for all their thoughtful responses. Main thing is that I wanted to make sure the no-rear speaker situation was legitimate and not a loose wire or something. I'm going to leave well enough alone. Much of the time, I'm just listening to Rush Limbaugh and NPR news stuff anyway.

I listen to mostly talk also. I just wonder why they put a fader in the radio, but no rear speakers. I wonder if the same radio is used in other cars?

12-15-2009, 10:57 PM	#32 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I agree __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-15-2009, 11:00 PM	#33 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	the reference series was much better __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-15-2009, 11:04 PM	#34 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I still do not much care for infinity speakers now their amps I do like. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-15-2009, 11:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	i actually came to like MTX speakers when we were distributing them a few years back. if set up correctly they could thump or SQ __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-16-2009, 04:36 AM	#38 (permalink)
M.J. Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 68 Drives: '09 370 White, 6spd. Rep Power: 16	I've got rear speakers in mine. There are lots of people here that don't like rear speakers. I think speedfreak28 said it very well, "Rear fill is all a matter of personal preference." __________________ Aloha! Honolulu, Hawaii. '09 370Z White, 6spd Stillen Gen-III Intake/CBE, Alpine Entertainment Volk G2's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R, Nitto Invo 285x30F & 305x30R

12-15-2009, 10:32 PM	#31 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 19	I never liked the kappas they are yucky!

12-16-2009, 02:33 AM	#36 (permalink)
speedfreak28 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: south jersey Posts: 247 Drives: 05 ram, 79 z28 Rep Power: 16	Rear fill is all a matter of personal preference, A good front stage is more than enough in a 2 door car but if you want sound behind you go fir it. A true SQ install may sound boring to most people. The goal is to achieve a flat curve on a RTA ( basically the speaker produces the same level of sound output at all frequencies it is tuned to) Do whats pleasing to your ears because for every day installs geared toward SQ its very subjective. What sounds good to you may not sound good to someone else. Another way to use a rear speaker is to fit a 6.5 and use it as a dedicated midbass. The human ear has a harder time locating a speaker producing low frequencies.

12-16-2009, 08:46 AM	#39 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 41 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	All of my cars that could fit 6x9/6.5s in the back had them and sounded great. My 72 bug only has 6x9s in the rear and sounds great (Boston). I just don't see the need to add a set of 3" or 4" speakers in the Z. __________________ "Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

12-17-2009, 01:39 AM	#42 (permalink)
hoodust Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 138 Drives: 370Z PG A7 Rep Power: 16	More than rear-fill, I'd consider them for potentially better stereo sound staging is all. But with the seats there I'm not sure rears would help that anyway. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport Coupe Platinum Graphite 7-Speed Auto

12-17-2009, 08:04 AM	#43 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Staging is all about what is in front of you not what is in rear. Think of it as a stage of a concert your sound is coming from in front of you not behind. When you add rears it is no long stereo. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-17-2009, 08:40 AM	#44 (permalink)
OldGuy Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greensburg PA Posts: 899 Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7 Rep Power: 17	Thanks to everyone for all their thoughtful responses. Main thing is that I wanted to make sure the no-rear speaker situation was legitimate and not a loose wire or something. I'm going to leave well enough alone. Much of the time, I'm just listening to Rush Limbaugh and NPR news stuff anyway.

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