removable sub

bigaudiofanat · 11-29-2009, 08:58 PM

You just proved one of my points that ported is louder. But that does not mean that it is better for sound quality.

ConchZ2 · 11-29-2009, 09:05 PM

Division………….it’s hilarious how the truth gets edited!!
You left out the Civic!!

bigaudiofanat · 11-29-2009, 09:08 PM

How does that even come close to the subject?

imag · 11-29-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Division

All things considered, you're probably looking for something to replace the spare tire. With the spare tire removed, you have between 7" and 8" of depth to play with, which doesn't leave you many speaker options. The option I'm most fond of at the moment is 2fast4thelaw's JL13W5 installation (see his thread here) Something similar will give you the stealth look you're looking for, with the potential of being removable for track days.

That is *exactly* what I want, with provisions for easy removal. I wonder if I can even build in some of the sound insulation onto the enclosure rather than the car.

It sounds like he's happy with the JL 13.5". I'm not worried about the money for the sub - if I'm going to do this, I want to do it right. My understanding of those subs is that they have to have exactly the right volume enclosure - any deviation totally screws them up. 2Fast did it right.

Anyway, thanks for posting - I don't know how I missed that thread!

As far as ported vs. non, everyone knows Big is correct. Sealed is always the choice if sound *quality* is the top priority. That doesn't mean ported doesn't get you more volume, or decent (even excellent) sound if designed correctly, but for flat response, sealed is ideal.

ConchZ2 · 11-29-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

How does that even come close to the subject?

It really hits home………….

ConchZ2 · 11-29-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by imag

That is *exactly* what I want, with provisions for easy removal. I wonder if I can even build in some of the sound insulation onto the enclosure rather than the car.

It sounds like he's happy with the JL 13.5". I'm not worried about the money for the sub - if I'm going to do this, I want to do it right. My understanding of those subs is that they have to have exactly the right volume enclosure - any deviation totally screws them up. 2Fast did it right.

Anyway, thanks for posting - I don't know how I missed that thread!

As far as ported vs. non, everyone knows Big is correct. Sealed is always the choice if sound *quality* is the top priority. That doesn't mean ported doesn't get you more volume, or decent (even excellent) sound if designed correctly, but for flat response, sealed is ideal.

A few people think he is correct………………..just google

Division · 11-29-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ConchZ2

It really hits home………….

I posted, then realized - "why bother..." the people who would understand my comments already know- and those that don't need to learn a lesson the hard way.

Division · 11-29-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by imag

That is *exactly* what I want, with provisions for easy removal. I wonder if I can even build in some of the sound insulation onto the enclosure rather than the car.

Actually owning a Z, I can comment here. With the in cabin noise at the levels it is (it is a sports car afterall) it would take a large amount of dampening to have an overall impact on sound quality. Yes - adding some will help... but no more than turning up the volume. The car is solid and well put together, I don't have a problem with rattles- its the road noise that's a killer. Since you'll probably be removing the foam blocks to put the sub in, adding a few layers of ensolite fabric might not be a bad idea. It'll keep you from having layers of butyl like material (edead, rammatt, dynamat, etc) and probably keep you at stock NVH levels, if not a slight improvement. Plus, you can easily roll it up and take it out on track days.

bigaudiofanat · 11-29-2009, 11:38 PM

I agree I rode in a Z for 3 days and it was much quitter than my civic was. Very nice ride IMO and adding dampener to remove road noise I find myself asking what road noise? The Z is very solid, I agree Division.

motoextreme · 11-29-2009, 11:41 PM

Not sure if you saw my pictures, its a bit big to pull in and out but as you can see there is no way to tell I have a system if I didnt have the Alpine head unit. Stereo hits pretty hard with a single 12". I don't really listen to rap or anything, more Alternative and Rock but either way, very deep base, I put it on Zero and the drums or movies are amazing. Here's my set up and if you wanted it removable you could just build it with quick connects.

Good luck man.

bigaudiofanat · 11-29-2009, 11:43 PM

Nice man did you condition the wood with anything? Well MDF

motoextreme · 11-29-2009, 11:59 PM

Sorry to say I had a shop do it. Not really sure what they used but they used velcro on the bottom so it doesnt move, they used a very lightweight board on top (the 3 panels) with a thick metal screen so I can still put things in and the sound is amazing!

Not sure about the other set ups but you can put a DVD on whilst music is playing through the ipod and they wired it so it all works weather your driving or parked. Blue tooth cuts everything off too with touchscreen and voice recognition. Pretty sweet set up but I already took a little heat from the other guys about adding weight, fact is I'm not racing the car just yet and if I do I can slide it out pretty quick.

I really like alpine, sounds exceptionally clear. They picked the sub, used to run with JF, Fosgate, etc in High School but that was a very long time ago.. Whatever this sub is, sounds great!

Thx for the compliment though, from you that means alot, you seem to be quite the expert from the posts I've read.

ConchZ2 · 11-30-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I agree I rode in a Z for 3 days and it was much quitter than my civic was. Very nice ride IMO and adding dampener to remove road noise I find myself asking what road noise? The Z is very solid, I agree Division.

In-cabin Noise Reduction ? - Honda Civic Forum

ConchZ2 · 11-30-2009, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I agree I rode in a Z for 3 days and it was much quitter than my civic was. Very nice ride IMO and adding dampener to remove road noise I find myself asking what road noise? The Z is very solid, I agree Division.

http://www.civicforums.com/forums/18...reduction.html

bigaudiofanat · 11-30-2009, 12:06 AM

I am not asking anything about reducing noise in my car. Stop messing around and posting worthless junk. I was simply comparing the fact that my car is nosier than the Z.

11-29-2009, 08:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	You just proved one of my points that ported is louder. But that does not mean that it is better for sound quality. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-29-2009, 09:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	How does that even come close to the subject? __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-29-2009, 11:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I agree I rode in a Z for 3 days and it was much quitter than my civic was. Very nice ride IMO and adding dampener to remove road noise I find myself asking what road noise? The Z is very solid, I agree Division. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-29-2009, 11:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Nice man did you condition the wood with anything? Well MDF __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-29-2009, 11:59 PM	#27 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 369	Sorry to say I had a shop do it. Not really sure what they used but they used velcro on the bottom so it doesnt move, they used a very lightweight board on top (the 3 panels) with a thick metal screen so I can still put things in and the sound is amazing! Not sure about the other set ups but you can put a DVD on whilst music is playing through the ipod and they wired it so it all works weather your driving or parked. Blue tooth cuts everything off too with touchscreen and voice recognition. Pretty sweet set up but I already took a little heat from the other guys about adding weight, fact is I'm not racing the car just yet and if I do I can slide it out pretty quick. I really like alpine, sounds exceptionally clear. They picked the sub, used to run with JF, Fosgate, etc in High School but that was a very long time ago.. Whatever this sub is, sounds great! Thx for the compliment though, from you that means alot, you seem to be quite the expert from the posts I've read. __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

11-29-2009, 09:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
ConchZ2 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: connecticut Posts: 329 Drives: 09 370Z red 6sp sprt Rep Power: 16	Division………….it’s hilarious how the truth gets edited!! You left out the Civic!!

11-30-2009, 12:06 AM	#30 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I am not asking anything about reducing noise in my car. Stop messing around and posting worthless junk. I was simply comparing the fact that my car is nosier than the Z. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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