Steering wheel control with Pioneer?

G Fo12ce · 11-03-2009, 08:42 PM

I read through the sticky on this topic but didn't find anything applying to this question.

Does anyone make something to use the stock steering wheel controls with a Pioneer head unit? I've always used Pioneer in the past and have been happy. I was looking at one of thier AVIC models but it doesn't look like Pac-Swi-Jack or Soundgate make anything compatible to my knowledge. Is there anything else, or has anyone tried one of these units?

It looks like the Pioneer radios come with a remote and steering wheel mount but that not very clean IMO. If nothing works maybe I'll have to conider another model.

Thanks.

bigaudiofanat · 11-03-2009, 08:52 PM

The Pac-Swi-Jack is the only one that I know of that works with the Z as of right now. Maybe this one will work for you. But I am not sure if these are compatible with the z you might want to check.

Amazon.com: PAC SWI-PS Sony and Pioneer Steering Wheel Radio Control Interface: Automotive

PAC SWI-JACK | Car Audio, Car Stereo

kenchan · 11-03-2009, 09:57 PM

there's another brand... cant remember the name but it's basically the same thing as the PAC. bestbuy sells them. talk to one of the geeks.

Sigur · 11-03-2009, 10:17 PM

Pacific Accessory Corporation (PAC) makes steering wheel interfaces (SWI) for about any vehicle and stereo combination. You just need the one for Pioneer/Sony (PS) instead of the one for JVC/Alpine/Clarion/Kenwood (JACK).

What I'm trying to say is you need the PAC-SWI-PS instead of the PAC-SWI-JACK which you can order just as easily as the other one. I've got one in my 370Z with a AVIC and it works fine.

Pac-audio.com Products | iPod Integration for your car and More by Pac-Audio - Connecting you to the future

I ordered mine online from here:

Discount mobile electronics, Bluetooth hands free, cellular repeater, cellular amplifier

G Fo12ce · 11-05-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigur

Pacific Accessory Corporation (PAC) makes steering wheel interfaces (SWI) for about any vehicle and stereo combination. You just need the one for Pioneer/Sony (PS) instead of the one for JVC/Alpine/Clarion/Kenwood (JACK).

What I'm trying to say is you need the PAC-SWI-PS instead of the PAC-SWI-JACK which you can order just as easily as the other one. I've got one in my 370Z with a AVIC and it works fine.

Pac-audio.com Products | iPod Integration for your car and More by Pac-Audio - Connecting you to the future

I ordered mine online from here:

Discount mobile electronics, Bluetooth hands free, cellular repeater, cellular amplifier

Awesome, thank you all for the info. I'm glad you guys clarified and that you have one working on an AVIC Pioneer model. Forget about the other guys post I just bumped lol.

Mike · 11-05-2009, 10:33 AM

I bought the PAC switch, but couldn't get it to work on my F900BT. You have to wire some resistors inline with the wiring, and I think I probably picked the wrong ones, as they are pretty hard to read and tell the difference between brown and red for me. I never use the controls on any of our other cars though, so I didn't bother trying to troubleshoot it.

ksmith062080 · 11-05-2009, 03:10 PM

I've never in my life worked with resistors. Does anyone have a picture of what the end product looks like after your added the transistor to the wiring?

kenchan · 11-05-2009, 03:26 PM

You can just bend the wire comming off the resistor in a U shape and just solder onto that, e-tape it.

I think wiki had a diagram of how to read the color rings if you need help with that.

bigaudiofanat · 11-05-2009, 03:50 PM

Depends on what you need to do with the resistors some you just tie into certain wires by putting one end to the wire and the other end going out to the other end of that wire. It is hard to explain online. Also there are tons of different ones make sure you get the right ones, go to a radio shack and show them the diagram they could probably show you what you need to do with the resistors. That is what I use to do back when I started out with them.

Sigur · 11-05-2009, 04:18 PM

The SWI has one wire (white) that takes information from your steering wheel wires. Since the Z has two wires that give a momentary signal to the SWI the resistors are used to that the SWI can tell which wire is active when they are both tied to the white signal wire. All the resistors have a gold band that you put to the right i think, and three other bands of color that you read from right to left. If you dont want to solder you can just put one end of all the resisters crimped into a butt connector and the white SWI wire, and connect the other end of each resister individually to the proper steering wheel wire with a butt connector. It's basicly just a 12V signal saying the button is pushed like a amp turn on wire, there is no reason to solder if you don't want to. Since the wiring harness usually doesn't have wires for the steering wheel wires you can rob unused wires from the harness (rear speaker wires for base people etc) and move them to the steering wheel pin location to avoid cutting the factory wiring at all.

I haven't confirmed this, but I don't think it even matters if you use the right resistor on the right wire. As long as the SWI can tell the difference between the two you program the buttons after it's all hooked up anyways.

kenchan · 11-05-2009, 08:20 PM

use this.

4 Band Resistor Color Codes

ConchZ2 · 11-06-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

I bought the PAC switch, but couldn't get it to work on my F900BT. You have to wire some resistors inline with the wiring, and I think I probably picked the wrong ones, as they are pretty hard to read and tell the difference between brown and red for me. I never use the controls on any of our other cars though, so I didn't bother trying to troubleshoot it.

For the Pioneer AVIC F series........

“Z” Pin #6 to 47ohm (yel/vio/blk) to PAC white wire
“Z” Pin #16 to 150 ohm (brn/grn/brn) to PAC white wire
ground pin #15 (Br)
PAC black wire to “Z” ground
Do not cut the loops

Sigur · 11-06-2009, 09:09 AM

Confirmed you can use the wrong resistors and it still works fine. Except for the highest resistace one.

G Fo12ce · 11-07-2009, 01:34 AM

Great info. Thanks guys.

Just FYI I posted in the sticky on steering wheels controls with a link here since the sticky only references the SWI-JACK and not the PS. That way people with Pioneer/Sony head units can get all the info in one spot.

Thanks again.

bigaudiofanat · 11-07-2009, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigur

Confirmed you can use the wrong resistors and it still works fine. Except for the highest resistace one.

I am going to have to disagree, the manual says to use one kind of resistor and that is what you should use. I would play it safe and stick to what it says to use.

11-03-2009, 08:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	Steering wheel control with Pioneer? I read through the sticky on this topic but didn't find anything applying to this question. Does anyone make something to use the stock steering wheel controls with a Pioneer head unit? I've always used Pioneer in the past and have been happy. I was looking at one of thier AVIC models but it doesn't look like Pac-Swi-Jack or Soundgate make anything compatible to my knowledge. Is there anything else, or has anyone tried one of these units? It looks like the Pioneer radios come with a remote and steering wheel mount but that not very clean IMO. If nothing works maybe I'll have to conider another model. Thanks.

11-03-2009, 08:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	The Pac-Swi-Jack is the only one that I know of that works with the Z as of right now. Maybe this one will work for you. But I am not sure if these are compatible with the z you might want to check. Amazon.com: PAC SWI-PS Sony and Pioneer Steering Wheel Radio Control Interface: Automotive PAC SWI-JACK \| Car Audio, Car Stereo __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-05-2009, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I bought the PAC switch, but couldn't get it to work on my F900BT. You have to wire some resistors inline with the wiring, and I think I probably picked the wrong ones, as they are pretty hard to read and tell the difference between brown and red for me. I never use the controls on any of our other cars though, so I didn't bother trying to troubleshoot it. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

11-05-2009, 03:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Depends on what you need to do with the resistors some you just tie into certain wires by putting one end to the wire and the other end going out to the other end of that wire. It is hard to explain online. Also there are tons of different ones make sure you get the right ones, go to a radio shack and show them the diagram they could probably show you what you need to do with the resistors. That is what I use to do back when I started out with them. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-05-2009, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sigur Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 92 Drives: 09 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	The SWI has one wire (white) that takes information from your steering wheel wires. Since the Z has two wires that give a momentary signal to the SWI the resistors are used to that the SWI can tell which wire is active when they are both tied to the white signal wire. All the resistors have a gold band that you put to the right i think, and three other bands of color that you read from right to left. If you dont want to solder you can just put one end of all the resisters crimped into a butt connector and the white SWI wire, and connect the other end of each resister individually to the proper steering wheel wire with a butt connector. It's basicly just a 12V signal saying the button is pushed like a amp turn on wire, there is no reason to solder if you don't want to. Since the wiring harness usually doesn't have wires for the steering wheel wires you can rob unused wires from the harness (rear speaker wires for base people etc) and move them to the steering wheel pin location to avoid cutting the factory wiring at all. I haven't confirmed this, but I don't think it even matters if you use the right resistor on the right wire. As long as the SWI can tell the difference between the two you program the buttons after it's all hooked up anyways. Last edited by Sigur; 11-05-2009 at 04:22 PM.

11-03-2009, 09:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	there's another brand... cant remember the name but it's basically the same thing as the PAC. bestbuy sells them. talk to one of the geeks.

11-03-2009, 10:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sigur Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 92 Drives: 09 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	Pacific Accessory Corporation (PAC) makes steering wheel interfaces (SWI) for about any vehicle and stereo combination. You just need the one for Pioneer/Sony (PS) instead of the one for JVC/Alpine/Clarion/Kenwood (JACK). What I'm trying to say is you need the PAC-SWI-PS instead of the PAC-SWI-JACK which you can order just as easily as the other one. I've got one in my 370Z with a AVIC and it works fine. Pac-audio.com Products \| iPod Integration for your car and More by Pac-Audio - Connecting you to the future I ordered mine online from here: Discount mobile electronics, Bluetooth hands free, cellular repeater, cellular amplifier

11-05-2009, 03:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
ksmith062080 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1 Drives: 09 FX35 Rep Power: 16	I've never in my life worked with resistors. Does anyone have a picture of what the end product looks like after your added the transistor to the wiring?

11-05-2009, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	You can just bend the wire comming off the resistor in a U shape and just solder onto that, e-tape it. I think wiki had a diagram of how to read the color rings if you need help with that.

11-05-2009, 08:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	use this. 4 Band Resistor Color Codes

11-06-2009, 09:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sigur Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 92 Drives: 09 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	Confirmed you can use the wrong resistors and it still works fine. Except for the highest resistace one.

11-07-2009, 01:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	Great info. Thanks guys. Just FYI I posted in the sticky on steering wheels controls with a link here since the sticky only references the SWI-JACK and not the PS. That way people with Pioneer/Sony head units can get all the info in one spot. Thanks again.

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