10" or 12" Subs
 

Hey guys,

I've always thought that the stock audio system for the Z was bad, and I'm not one to really care about it. But I believe it's time for an upgrade. I've looked around for a clean looking box and never found one. So I was looking into having a custom one made, while I was searching online for custom boxes, I came across a pretty clean looking one on Amazon. (Attached)

My questions now are. Should I go with a one 12" sub or Two 10" subs. I've been leaning towards the two 10" subs, reason being it makes the box look like it's not just taking up space with one sub. The two 10" makes the look "cleaner" in my opinion... I won't be pounding/blasting my music. Just want the sound quality to be better while at the same time have the Z looking good.

Now with that being said I was looking into getting two 10" Fosgates... P2's but should I go with 2ohm or 4ohm? Which amp would complement them best?

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If the subs are dual voice coil (I would assume they are) it really depends on what amp to determine which ohm rating the subs should be. If you are going to get an amp that is stable at 1ohm, get the 4ohm subs. If your amp only goes down to 2ohms, get the 2ohm subs.
Two 4ohm subs can only be wired together at 4ohm, 1ohm, and I believe 8ohm.
Two 2 ohm subs can only be wired together at 2ohm, 0.5ohm, and I believe 4ohm.

I am running 2 10" subs and it is more than enough bass for a very clean sound. That is the route I would go. A 12" sub is going to hit hard but depending on amp and box design may not be as clean as tight as the 10's

Size isn't everything, but I agree it will have more than enough bass. I used to have 4 8"s that hit a lot harder and a lot lower than other setups my friend had with 2 12"s. At a different time I had a single 15" in a 4.5 cuft box that was a whole lot cleaner and tighter than a set of 10s or a set of 12s.

Moral of the story is buy good equipment and do it right the first time.

I'm going to decline getting into the 2x10's vs 1x12 discussion, but I thought I'd chime in and vouch for your choice of enclosure. I've had that Zenclosures box in the single 10" variety for a couple years now. It sounds fantastic and looks great in a nice minimalist way. It's well built too and buying from Mike at Zenclosures was a pleasure. I'm sure you will be eminently satisfied no matter which route you choose to go.

If your going custom, take a look at the RF shallow subs, P3's, or check out the Diamond Audio DS subs. AS for a custom box I've made a few, check out my full install album, might give you some ideas.

i have the zenenclosure 12" sub box that is facing up, and i love it. Enough bass for me, but i love bass and i bump hard, Pushing 800rms right now. I don't know if there will be a big difference vs a 12in and a 10in but ill let you know 1 12" sub will be plenty for you.and it'll sound amazing!

1x12 or 2x10

A good single 10" is all you need in the Z. It all comes f own to what kind of sound you are looking for. If u ou just want loud, well there are plenty of options and anything will do. If you want tighter bass, a 10". If you want more boom, a 12". not all subs are equal. Shallow subs d ound different from regular ones. A good quality amp plays a significant roll in the sub sound too.

Yzgyz

this is perfect for me,
it's a 10TW3D4
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Where do you have the amp mounted for this setup ?

where'd you hear that one??

I got it right behind my seat, I'm about to get a new smaller one that has the same power http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...cdc7c3b24d.jpg

Looks good thanks. Got the Bose system but going to add a slim 10 like you have just for some more base

Just personal experience and opinion. I also believe that the enclosure of a shallow sub plays a bigger roll on sound that it does on a non shallow. I'm not sure why or maybe I'm bias. I do like my Type R Shallow sub. It cost more but I wanted to have use able space in my trunk so a shallow was the ticket.

YzGyz

I currently have a Stereo Integrity BM Mark 4 Sub. The previous model, the Mark 3, and the Mark 4 are widely considered to be one of the best SQ subwoofers you can get your hands on. They are both shallow mounts.
Technology in the shallow mount arena has grown by leaps and bounds in recent years, and many of the current offerings are outstanding performers. On the other hand, if you are planning on running in the SPL lanes at your local stereo competition, I would stick with a traditional subwoofer.
That being said, I seriously doubt that anyone could discern between a shallow mount, and traditional mount subwoofer in a blind hearing test, all other factors being the same.
I have heard the type R in more than one vehicle, and it is also a great sounding Sub.

Oh yeah, BM subs are killer!! I would of gotten one but I didn't want to wait in line and hope I could get one. your right with the blind test. But then, it also depends on the sound and type of music you are looking for.

YzGyz

What are the dimensions of that sub box? I am thinking I will make my own....just curious.

Thanks!


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I love my type R

I think me box is around .8 cu ft. Minus the sub space. What I did was measure a box for .8 cu ft. Then I filled it with packing peanuts. I then put the peanuts in a bag then used that to measure said space. In my case, I shoved it into the corner of my trunk.

Yzgyz

2 10's are going to give you more surface area which in term going to be louder. I just installed 2 JL w3 10's in a Z a few weeks back and it's LOUD. Pushing a clean 520 watts per sub to them.

10" or 12" Subs
 

Anyone ever install a kicker CVX 12 in a 370? I have one and am thinking about using it.....it is 6.5" deep so I am trying to figure how much box space to provide. I want to try and get away with the minimum as I don't want a traditional box like Zenclosures....

I was thinking a smaller profile similar to RBFastbacks....

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All subs, as folks have stated, provide different types of sound. The smaller the diameter, the tighter and cleaner the bass will be. However as the diameter increases, the depth of bass increases. So 12s will be slightly more 'sloppy' than 10s but will hit deeper.

Multiple speakers will give you even more boom, but so will a well placed and sized port. I went with a 10" pioneer competition sub with 1.1 cu.ft. and 3"x6" aeroport. The dimensions, air space and enclosure size will do more to produce better sound out of any speaker than adding power or size ever will.

If you have your box already, choose speakers that meet the dimensions of the box
If you have your speakers already, choose a box that matches the specs of the speaker

If you already have both, you may need to modify the box to obtain the best sound.

10" or 12" Subs
 

I actually have a kicker CompVR 12" (cvr12) an love it in other cars but it's just too much for the z and the size box it requires I just think it takes up way to much room an u need a custom box so it could fit.
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that TW3 is perfect I think, plenty of bass and I have plenty more I can turn the gains up without maxing it out.

only down side it it's not ported, gonna look into if I can port it?
best part is how compact an the best part is it hardly weighs anything

Yes....I have a kicker CVX as I stated in a ported enclosure similar to the one above....It was powered by a 800 rms amp in my Honda Civic.....this setup for the Z will be way to much......plus I like the tight sound and sealed response of a 10. I am just trying to get buy with possibly using the box I have.


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well if it doesn't work the JL setup was about $350 and u already have an amp

Yea.....I also have a crappy 10 already in a sealed box.....I might try that out as well


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