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Paul@AEperformance 12-04-2009 03:03 PM

*AE Performance Oil Cooler Kit*
 
http://aeperformance.com/upload/images/sidepic.jpg

http://aeperformance.com/upload/images/flatpic.jpg

AE Performance is prowd to introduce the AE Oil Cooler Upgrade.

Background:
AE Performance has run 3 different Oil Coolers Kits from other manufacturers in search of superior cooling and quality and after our 3rd attempt to find an oil cooler that can keep the Z's engine oil temps safe in high heat applications, yet respond well on the street and include high milage reliability, we gave up and decided to engineer our own kit!
Our Kit is a direct extension in every aspect of current kits on the market to provide, superior cooling, quality parts, and long term reliability.

Parts:

Full Billet Block Adapter:
http://aeperformance.com/upload/images/z34blockad.jpg

Every kit we ran all came with cheap cast block adapters and one leaked right away. No Cast here. Full Billet adaptor, superior fit, will not leak or warp from heat over time. Built to last!

Teflon Coated S.S lines:
http://aeperformance.com/upload/images/z34lines.jpg

We also noticed extended wear on fender liners, chassis and any other points of contact from other kits that included S.S lines. These are like saw's and over time will eat through anything. AE's teflon coated lines not only eliminate this issue but also add a great visual aspect to the equation.

Setrab Oil Core:
http://aeperformance.com/upload/images/z34coolerf.jpg

It is the design of the core that sets our kit apart from the rest.

We needed this core to do 2 main things.
Keep engine oil temps safe under high heat applications, yet still be able to bring a cold engine up to proper 180' deg. for everyday street driving.
To obtain "the best of both worlds" we needed to further look into the cores design.
Unlike Conventional coolers that run lateral row's, our core run's vertical row's.
By doing this we get superior rapid high heat cooling by spreading "Hot" oil over a much larger surface area compaired to a lateral core of the same dimensions.
The much shorter vertical rows also provide much less pressure drop over a lateral core design.
Having minimal pressure drop in turn allows the cold engine oil from a cold start to easily get up to proper running temp with no lag what so ever unlike conventional large Lateral core oil coolers.

As you can see we put a ton of thought into this and are very pleased with the resluts. We have tested this kit, on and off track, drifting, autocross and everyday street driving. This upgrade is a MUST for any Z owner that does any sort of aggressive driving. N/A, Turbo, or supercharged Z's this is the kit for you.

Don't make the mistake of buying a kit that is too small or so big your car never gets up to temp on the street.

Get the Best of Both Worlds here with the AE Performance Oil Cooler kit.

Kit includes all of above + hardware and installation instructions.

MSRP: $1100.00

The370Z Member Special: $995.00 + Free Shipping for the first 5 kits in the US.

Act Fast! :driving:

ZForce 12-06-2009 12:12 PM

Very good write up and proven testing on and off the track. Reading through the write up I have to admitt I got some wood over this, until I got to the end and saw the price...ouch. I would have pulled the trigger on two of them for the ZBros twin Z34's. I will have to re think some other mod parts I was planning on and re shift some funds to saving for this oil cooler kit.

I have been waiting since July for a shop to R&D their own oil cooler kit and the first one was scrapped and been waiting since then for another version. Been looking at Stillen's or GTM's oil cooler kit. I was getting ant-zee and now here is AE Performance that has tested this one with great results.

It is in the price range as the Nissan oil cooler, and I see the difference (vertical bars versus horizontial).

Great job guys! :tup:

I have to seriously re- think where my funds are going. At this point I will have to save if I want this oil cooler kit.

Curtis

Trips 12-06-2009 01:20 PM

I will have to save up for this one, nice write up, and the product looks good and solid. :tup:

LiquidZ 12-06-2009 09:59 PM

Paul, I'm very impressed. I'm putting this down on the list for next year.

Paul@AEperformance 12-14-2009 04:09 PM

Awesome Thanks Guys!

We've had great responce on this kit!

We do know it is expesive compaired to other variants out their but they don't compare in quality/quanity. Our kit is $$ b/c we used big $$ parts.

You truely get what you pay for in this case.

Compaired to Nismo, ARC, Central 20, MCR, etc were a bargin.


We ran two of the above kits and one other not mentioned and every one was not enough in the canyon, track or any sort of high performance driving. and the other was plenty but took a decade to heat up on the street.

Don't make the the mistake we did and think, "this kit will be fine" Our kit defently is the best of both worlds. Stock or Modded cars, Street or Circut driving.

G Fo12ce 12-17-2009 10:25 PM

Did you design this to fit on all models?

I have a Nismo model which has that front chassis damper that stretches accross the radiator. Will it fit? By the way I'm in Orange County if you want to look at it.

Thanks.

Paul@AEperformance 01-04-2010 04:11 PM

We remove the front damper for Nismo cars.

vipor 01-04-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul@AEperformance (Post 354086)
We remove the front damper for Nismo cars.

you can't just flip the damper as is done in the half-width cooler installs?

Paul@AEperformance 01-04-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 354132)
you can't just flip the damper as is done in the half-width cooler installs?

Yes, but so far all of our Nismo customers have opted to just get rid of it.

vipor 01-04-2010 06:11 PM

i've heard it might just be for vibration, not actually chassis stiffness. i don't see how it can't help the stiffness though.

Trips 02-28-2010 04:39 AM

bump

Paul@AEperformance 03-03-2010 05:48 PM

Sharif, Fairlady Fan, Chris G. and Mynismo,

Your oil coolers are all shipped and on their way.

Enjoy!

B1nks 03-07-2010 02:12 PM

What's the lead time on these ? Also you say the heat up time for DD is still decent correct ? This will be my next mod and I'm really only looking at this one at this time.

wavehogger 03-21-2010 09:32 PM

So I was browsing the AE news and saw this update pasted below about the 370z still overheating (280 degrees) at the Redline Attack with reference to having an oil cooler? Can you guys at AE explain what happened there.

I'm still in the research phase of deciding which one to get and I really want to make the right choice here. Your's is pricey but if it can keep it cool on a 95 degree day at the track, then I'll spend the extra $$.

I am in New England and I will be driving my car in some cooler and wider ranging temps (40's - 90's) and want the most cooling as possible without worrying about reaching a decent temp. I haven't found anyone reviewing it yet online who has actually installed it. And your website still doesn't have it listed in the products section nor does it have any installation instructions/info just so I can see what's what. Thanks in advance!

"Paul Dentice in the AE Performance 370z takes 1st at Spring Mountain

Recap by Paul D.
Spring Mountain was a first for the AE crew and with 18 turns it was anything but easy to figure out the fast way through the course, but fortuneately NV locals including Mike and the Double Down crew were super cool in lending a helping hand.

On track the car felt rock solid. The AE preped JIC dampers allowed for late apexing and a planted rear end through the high speed sections even with the old tires we were on. (3 track days).

We switched to Ferodo RS3000 pads for our AP brakes that ended up being a bit too aggressive in the rear but a quick swap to a milder Mintex pad in the rear settled the car much more and was easier to keep stright under hard braking.

Heat was a major issue for everyone. With the Oil Cooler upgrade we were still only able to complete 1 hot lap before the oil temps hit 280deg and the car wouldn’t rev past 5k rpm’s.

After all was said and done, We were all really impressed with the Z. With viturally no power mods out-side of a Stillen intake and Mine’s Flash we were solely relying on the Z’s chassie to pull through for us and it did! Rich placed 5th in Modified RWD Class in the GT2, GTR (DNF),and I grabbed top honors in SS RWD class with the Z, and was able to make the 4.5hr drive back to the OC without a hick-up."

ZForce 03-22-2010 12:37 AM

I thought the same reading the blog and then noticed the date of the blog was Sept 30, 2009 and it looks like they released the oil cooler in Dec 2009.

Paul@AEperformance 03-24-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 433070)
What's the lead time on these ? Also you say the heat up time for DD is still decent correct ? This will be my next mod and I'm really only looking at this one at this time.

No lead time, we try to keep several in stock. Heat up time is fine for DD. I DD with it and b/c of the design we keep pressure drop minimal so it allows the car to get up to proper temp properly.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

-Paul

Paul@AEperformance 03-24-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavehogger (Post 458012)
So I was browsing the AE news and saw this update pasted below about the 370z still overheating (280 degrees) at the Redline Attack with reference to having an oil cooler? Can you guys at AE explain what happened there.

I'm still in the research phase of deciding which one to get and I really want to make the right choice here. Your's is pricey but if it can keep it cool on a 95 degree day at the track, then I'll spend the extra $$.

I am in New England and I will be driving my car in some cooler and wider ranging temps (40's - 90's) and want the most cooling as possible without worrying about reaching a decent temp. I haven't found anyone reviewing it yet online who has actually installed it. And your website still doesn't have it listed in the products section nor does it have any installation instructions/info just so I can see what's what. Thanks in advance!

"Paul Dentice in the AE Performance 370z takes 1st at Spring Mountain

Recap by Paul D.
Spring Mountain was a first for the AE crew and with 18 turns it was anything but easy to figure out the fast way through the course, but fortuneately NV locals including Mike and the Double Down crew were super cool in lending a helping hand.

On track the car felt rock solid. The AE preped JIC dampers allowed for late apexing and a planted rear end through the high speed sections even with the old tires we were on. (3 track days).

We switched to Ferodo RS3000 pads for our AP brakes that ended up being a bit too aggressive in the rear but a quick swap to a milder Mintex pad in the rear settled the car much more and was easier to keep stright under hard braking.

Heat was a major issue for everyone. With the Oil Cooler upgrade we were still only able to complete 1 hot lap before the oil temps hit 280deg and the car wouldn’t rev past 5k rpm’s.

After all was said and done, We were all really impressed with the Z. With viturally no power mods out-side of a Stillen intake and Mine’s Flash we were solely relying on the Z’s chassie to pull through for us and it did! Rich placed 5th in Modified RWD Class in the GT2, GTR (DNF),and I grabbed top honors in SS RWD class with the Z, and was able to make the 4.5hr drive back to the OC without a hick-up."


Good eye!

This was all before we developed our own kit and were running other manufactures kits. Spring Mountain was the 2nd cooler kit we tired from another company that only allowed 1 hot-lap. We tired one more kit on the market after that and then deiced to just build our own kit.

We have had nothing but 100% satisfaction from all of our customers that run out kit.

:tup:

SoCal 370Z 03-24-2010 01:38 PM

You'd probably get more takers if you were to show potential buyers the kit installed with the nose off (showing how it is arranged) and with the nose on to demonstrate what it looks like through the grill opening.

I do like the fact that it is along similar lines as ARC's and Central 20's.

ZForce 03-25-2010 10:11 PM

^ In for some pics.

ChrisSlicks 04-08-2010 05:02 PM

Where are the lines assembled and what size are they?

djohnson1967 04-09-2010 01:48 PM

Hello: Do you have installation instructions that you can post or e-mail to me? What about the pricing? Can I still get the member deal of $995? I you sent at least 4 kits already. Let me know what you can do on the price. Thanks

wavehogger 04-09-2010 03:39 PM

I am on the verge of purchasing one myself and would like to see the installation instructions and some pics. And will this fit ok with the Stillen Gen 3 intakes? Thanks

Paul@AEperformance 04-13-2010 08:10 PM

Hi guys,

Just wanted to get back to everyone on some questions that came up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 487187)
Where are the lines assembled and what size are they?

All lines are professionally assembled by Earls, Pressure tested and guaranteed! Size is -8

Quote:

Hello: Do you have installation instructions that you can post or e-mail to me? What about the pricing? Can I still get the member deal of $995?
Kits come with install instructions. And yes as a THE370Z member you can get the member pricing!

Quote:

I am on the verge of purchasing one myself and would like to see the installation instructions and some pics. And will this fit ok with the Stillen Gen 3 intakes? Thanks
You won't be dissapointed! I will post some install pic's for you and as I mentioned the kits all come with instructions.
This kit will work w/ Stillen Gen 3 intakes No Problem. Same intake we run on our car :tup:

Paul@AEperformance 04-13-2010 08:11 PM

Thanks, Double Down Mike for your order.

Your kit is on it's way! :tup:

ChrisSlicks 04-13-2010 09:32 PM

Thanks for the info Paul.

I have to say I'm a little surprised by the -8 line size given the high flow rate though the oil system in this car, but I'm sure you've done your homework.

Is there bypass protection in the adapter plate?

Paul@AEperformance 04-19-2010 06:19 PM

Install Pic's, From Mike Bonanni

http://www.bonannimotorsports.com/aeoilcooler1.jpg

http://www.bonannimotorsports.com/aeoilcooler2.jpg

Full Review here: http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...-again-14.html

37Z 04-22-2010 07:16 PM

370z oil cooler specs
 
1)What is (if any) oil pressure drop? Do you have any oil pressure readings when the oil temps is lower than 185 degrees and at approx. 190-220 degrees,and more than 220 degrees?

2)Do you have to relocate the power steering cooler?

3) Can you add remote oil fileter (i.e. like Amsoil by-pass oil filter or)?

4) Can you add a oil pressure sender and oil pressure gauge? If so, were would this sender by located?

5) Do the oil cooler impede the radiator's flow/cooling? Any water temps before/after the oil cooler's install would be helpful in making up my mind on its purchase.

simons 05-18-2010 06:48 PM

How do you go about ordering one? Tried logging onto your online store and it's under construction or something. Also, is it still the same price as when you first released it?

MUST 05-22-2010 01:45 AM

http://www.the370z.com/members/must-...il-cooler1.jpg

Got mine installed at AE today.

Great job on installation, very thorough and precise.

before install, my oil temps ranged from 230-250 (mild driving/traffic) and after install i averaged about 200! :tup:

To Paul, Casey and the guys at AE Performance...thanks for the awesome install job, really made me feel like this oil cooler kit was custom made for my Z, in many ways i guess it was!

AK370Z 06-26-2010 05:57 PM

pictures are not visible on original post :(. Paul?

wavehogger 06-27-2010 10:50 PM

Installation Info
 
I did my install this weekend. I was on and off it all weekend but total time is about 4 hrs if you take your time. I have some info/tips for those interested and here is a link to the photos they sent me (1-24) for the install so you can get a better look at the job. Pics 25 and up are my install pics which will help a lot. AE Performance Oil Cooler 370Z install pics

I want to thank the guys, Dustin, Casey & Ryne, at AE for getting this kit to me by this weekend so I'd have time to get it in before some events. The only thing they could have provided with this kit is some written instructions, you just go by the pics they send you. It's not a big deal, but as with all custom applications there are always tips/notes that can really save some time and frustration.

1) You need to either get the car on a lift or use some drive up ramps as I did so you can get under the car to work. You don't need a lot of height just enough to do an oil change really.

2) Remove bumper, which there are plenty on threads around with that info. (Stillen has it in the G3 Intake instructions which you can grab off their site)

3) I won't go through the whole process the pics take care of the major things but I will mention some little things.

4) Be sure that the threads in the adaptor plate are clean and smooth. I ran into an almost failure because when I started to thread one of the nipples in it only went in about 1 1/2 -2 turns and started to bind up. I know it wasn't crossed and it felt fine at the start but I had to fight to get it out and it ended up ruining the nipple and the first thread on the adaptor. I went to a local speed shop who had nipples and he ran a tap through the adaptor as well to clean up both threads. We noticed that the threads weren't perfect as it came and when we were done the new nipple went in like butter. I used Never-Seez Pipe Compound with Teflon, as the lubricant/sealer and both nipples went in a good 4 threads and got nice and tight. I'm going to call AE and let them know about the threads so they let whoever know to be sure they are done perfectly.

5) The biggest pain in this job is relocating the power steering cooler. You do have to move it for the oil cooler to fit. The pics here show the washer fluid container is an aftermarket because of the intakes they are using. With the stock one it's a bit tight to get at one of the fittings you need to remove to put the longer hose on for the relocated cooler. I didn't remove the washer fluid container but after fighting to get the old line off the aluminum fitting and putting the new one on I wish I had. You can decide for yourself but it is do-able. Be sure to catch the 1/2 - 3/4 quart of PS fluid that is going to come out when you disconnect the lines. I didn't try to reuse it and needed to add about 3/4 qt, use Nissan's or Dexron VI only.

6) Mounting the adaptor was easy, it pretty much points forward and I angled mine downward just a hair so that the top line, which uses the straight end has a little space between it and the wiring for the alternator. Now be sure to run the lines correctly to the cooler for flow right. It is marked on the adaptor for the flow. But if you look at the pics, the angled end on the bottom of the adaptor will connect to the bottom of the oil cooler as well, and the top to the top. Each line has one straight and one angled and they each go the opposite on the adaptor and cooler. Be sure to use some Never -Seez again on the nipples that thread into the oil cooler itself. BUT DO NOT use anything on the actual hose lines that screw on, those should be dry and don't over tighten them, just make them snug with an extra little push or you'll strip them out.

7) Another thing I noticed was that you want to mount the cooler to the mounting bracket with it slightly leaning forward. There is a little play in the two bolts on each side. If it's straight up vertical the back side of the cooler will rub against the outside temp sending unit; You can see in the pics in front of the PS cooler. I bent the bracket for the sensor back a bit as well and then nothing hits. You also need to bend the horn a little so it's not rubbing.

8) When you mount the front bumper aluminum support brace back up keep an eye on the lines as they go in-between the washer res, it's very tight and it seemed no matter how I did it they were going to rub the back edge of the brace which was a little sharp. The lines are coated and it probably wouldn't be a problem but to be sure I wrapped the lines in some clear hose and tie-wrapped it for an extra barrier.

9) Remember to fill your PS fluid back up and it will go down when you start it up. Be sure to add it right away to the low cold line again. You will hear the PS pump making a little noise until it gets the air out and fills back up. With a new oil filter I needed about 6 1/2 qts to fill it up, up from about 5 qts normally.

10) Be sure to run it up to temp while you have everything open so you can inspect for leaks everywhere. I did a short drive and re-inspected, and all was fine. I only had a chance to run it for about 25 minutes but it was 90 and humid and normally the temp would hit around 200 and creep to 230 as I cruised around without really pushing it too hard. It never went over 180 today. AE said that at the track it would never go over 240 no matter how hard or long they pushed it. Without the cooler they could barely get in a lap before limp mode. So I bet I'll never see 240 again, or on the street at least. If you guys have noticed that normally once it's getting hot and is over 200 sitting in traffic the fans could never bring down the temp. But when I was at a light and it was just over 180 the fans came on and I watched it drop to 170, which was awesome and a first!

Overall I think the kit is top notch and I will update the thread later after I've really tested it out. :happydance:

ChrisSlicks 06-28-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavehogger (Post 596208)
I did my install this weekend. I was on and off it all weekend but total time is about 4 hrs if you take your time.

Nice write-up on the install, and good pics to go with it. You're almost local (Lowell, MA here), want to come and do mine? ;)

wavehogger 06-28-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 596987)
Nice write-up on the install, and good pics to go with it. You're almost local (Lowell, MA here), want to come and do mine? ;)

Thanks. Yeah, you're only 45 mins away, cool. So you're thinking about the Nismo or AE? I think the AE is a great kit, don't have any temp #'s yet under more intense conditions but I'm confident it's going to work nice. If you want a hand let me know, i'd be glad to help. You know any other local 370's? I wish we could get some people together.

fuct 06-28-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul@AEperformance (Post 354150)
Yes, but so far all of our Nismo customers have opted to just get rid of it.

Paul it looks as though you CANT just flip the damper around for the Nismo model. I want to keep the damper and use your cooler. is this possible?

ChrisSlicks 06-28-2010 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavehogger (Post 597044)
Thanks. Yeah, you're only 45 mins away, cool. So you're thinking about the Nismo or AE? I think the AE is a great kit, don't have any temp #'s yet under more intense conditions but I'm confident it's going to work nice. If you want a hand let me know, i'd be glad to help. You know any other local 370's? I wish we could get some people together.

I've counted at least 4 massholes on here, maybe more. We will have to arrange a get together sometime that's for sure. I do Auto-X fairly regularly during the summer at Ayer, MA so if you think you want to check it out let me know (visit or drive).

Originally I was going to go with the Nismo but I'm leaning towards the AE right now because it has the same cooling capacity but is lower profile.

wavehogger 07-04-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 597347)
I've counted at least 4 massholes on here, maybe more. We will have to arrange a get together sometime that's for sure. I do Auto-X fairly regularly during the summer at Ayer, MA so if you think you want to check it out let me know (visit or drive).

Originally I was going to go with the Nismo but I'm leaning towards the AE right now because it has the same cooling capacity but is lower profile.

Yeah I was up at the Auto-X a bunch of years back in my 350. I'll PM you later about it to see when you'll be going next. It's so hard to find time when everyone is free but we can try.

An update on the cooler performance: It's actually better than I expected. I haven't tracked it but it's been hot and humid here 90+ and I was stuck in some traffic and from 180, it slowly, over 20 mins, creeped up to 200 and held there. Before the cooler it would have been 230+ easy. And I did have some fun keeping the revs up for a little bit and again I just touched about 210, where before I would have been 240. (And I run Amsoil full synthetic) It runs consistently 30-40 degrees cooler. The coolest it went was about 175 at night with low rpm cruising. The best part was I never felt any heat soak or loss of HP in the low end or at any time. In comparison as I posted in another thread regarding the effects of higher temps above 240, you can feel the power just being sucked right out of it.

The great thing it can do now is cool down on its own just by driving or the fans. When it gets up to 210 now after traffic or playing, once you drive normal it will go back down to 180. Before forget it, once it hit 220+ it wouldn't cool down if you drove it for 30 miles slowly. Now it cools itself off fast. Lovin it! :eekdance:

Paul@AEperformance 07-14-2010 12:13 PM

Glad your happy with it Wave and Thanks for the detailed write up. :tup:

Now that were nearing the hotter months customers are now realizing the urgencey of this kit for their cars.

Not sure what happened to the pic's on the first post, i'll have the guys look into it, Thanks.

Fuct: We have two members on here w/ Nismo's, our kit and their dampers. I'll shoot them PM's and see if I can get some more details for you!


ChrisSlicks: Are unit greatly excedes the cooling capacity of the Nismo unit. Our 3rd option we tried on our car before we designed this kit was essentially identical to Nismo kit and it wasn't enough. Close but no cigar. More so we had issues w/ the car coming up to temp under normal driving conditions. This is also very importaunt w/ running large cores like these. That is why our shorter runners keep Oil Pressue up and also the car to get to proper op temp right away.

Feel free to Contact Myself, Casey or Dustin if you guys have any further Questions.

And Thank you all very much for your business!

Stay Cool ;)

-Paul :tiphat:

djohnson1967 07-28-2010 11:09 AM

New Install
 
3 Attachment(s)
I installed the AE Performance oil cooler kit on my 40th Anniversary edition this past weekend. I will post a couple thoughts and a couple pictures.

The Good:
This kit seems to work great! I live in Tucson, so cooling is critical. I was previously running about 225 degrees on average. Getting up to 250-255 just driving around town was not unusual. Now after the install, I am right at 180 degrees while driving steady on the highway. It gets up to 190-195 when driving in town. That is a nice improvement and I now feel more confident taking it to the track. I will let you all know how that goes.

AE Performance is great to work with. Before ordering I spoke with Casey at length on the phone. Also, when packing my kit, they noticed a very small ding on the cooler core and called me to make sure it was OK to send it. They even gave me a small discount and the damage was hardly noticeable.

The kit is very high quality.

Installation was not that hard. I installed the Stillen Gen 3 CAI at the same time and the whole job took me and a buddy about 6 hours (with a lunch break).


The "not so good":

The kit does not come with any instructions. It is a fairly straightforward install I suppose, but I always have a few questions on the details. I am sure Casey or someone at AE would have been more than happy to talk me through it on the phone, but I think a kit like this should have some pretty good, detailed instructions included. I am not sure what we did before the internet. Postings by other members is ultimately the only thing that gave me the confidence to try this. Without this forum, I couldn't have even gotten the front bumper cover off!

One of the hoses included in the kit for relocating the power steering cooler was way too short. I had to go to the auto parts store and buy another hose. I suppose I may have relocated the power steering cooler differently than AE intended, but without instructions, who knows?

In addition to the small ding on the cooler core, there were paint chips on the mounting bracket.

I relocated the outside temperature sensor to get it away from the heat of the power steering cooler and the oil cooler. However, it is still reading about 15-20 degrees too high. Not a big deal, but I will try another spot for it next time I feel like taking the bumper cover off.

Overall, these are small complaints and I am very happy overall with the product quality, AE's service and the performance of the modification.

wavehogger 07-28-2010 10:21 PM

Hey D, glad to hear your cooler install went well and is working well. I think this is one of my fav mods. I'm happy that my 3.7 is now happier and will live a healthier life. I saw that you also didn't get enough power steering hose. I'm a little surprised because I spoke with Casey and the other guys at AE and explained to them that they weren't including enough hose and at first they actually didn't think I was correct. They then told me they would change that in future kits and add some, but I guess they forgot or thought I did something wrong. AE are you guys listening? :argue: I hope they make up some instructions and even use some of my notes and pics. It would just make it faster and leave less head scratching at times. Keep us posted on how high your temps get up to out there in the real heat, especially if you track it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by djohnson1967 (Post 648334)
I installed the AE Performance oil cooler kit on my 40th Anniversary edition this past weekend. I will post a couple thoughts and a couple pictures.

The Good:
This kit seems to work great! I live in Tucson, so cooling is critical. I was previously running about 225 degrees on average. Getting up to 250-255 just driving around town was not unusual. Now after the install, I am right at 180 degrees while driving steady on the highway. It gets up to 190-195 when driving in town. That is a nice improvement and I now feel more confident taking it to the track. I will let you all know how that goes.

AE Performance is great to work with. Before ordering I spoke with Casey at length on the phone. Also, when packing my kit, they noticed a very small ding on the cooler core and called me to make sure it was OK to send it. They even gave me a small discount and the damage was hardly noticeable.

The kit is very high quality.

Installation was not that hard. I installed the Stillen Gen 3 CAI at the same time and the whole job took me and a buddy about 6 hours (with a lunch break).


The "not so good":

The kit does not come with any instructions. It is a fairly straightforward install I suppose, but I always have a few questions on the details. I am sure Casey or someone at AE would have been more than happy to talk me through it on the phone, but I think a kit like this should have some pretty good, detailed instructions included. I am not sure what we did before the internet. Postings by other members is ultimately the only thing that gave me the confidence to try this. Without this forum, I couldn't have even gotten the front bumper cover off!

One of the hoses included in the kit for relocating the power steering cooler was way too short. I had to go to the auto parts store and buy another hose. I suppose I may have relocated the power steering cooler differently than AE intended, but without instructions, who knows?

In addition to the small ding on the cooler core, there were paint chips on the mounting bracket.

I relocated the outside temperature sensor to get it away from the heat of the power steering cooler and the oil cooler. However, it is still reading about 15-20 degrees too high. Not a big deal, but I will try another spot for it next time I feel like taking the bumper cover off.

Overall, these are small complaints and I am very happy overall with the product quality, AE's service and the performance of the modification.


ChrisSlicks 08-22-2010 09:59 AM

Ok I installed mine yesterday.

Good news:
They now have very thorough printed instructions with pictures :tup:. All the parts were perfectly packed and in perfect condition and they even included new hose clamps for the PS lines to replace the stock spring clamps. Install was straight forward and I had no problems at all following the install guide.

Bad news:
They are still including the useless 1 ft section of PS hose. I didn't measure but it is at least 6 to 8 inches short of the required length. Fortunately because I was replacing the stock cooler with the Stillen PS cooler they supply a 3 ft section of hose as well, so I was able to chop it to length to complete the install without a trip to the store.

Better news:
The engine is now cool as a Canadian cucumber. I will be beating on it at the track this weekend and let you know the results.


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