Jordo!

Whatever.

70K is nothing. That's absurd. Why would you presume that 70K on the trans means it was going to be more prone to fail.

Does that mean if you have 25K on the car, expect it to fail in the next 3-5 years? That's not an explantion anymore than "driver error". Tell me exactly what failed and why and what I can do to prevent it, otherwise it's a dice roll.

Until I hear a clear explanation of why some have failed and what can be done to prevent it it's a crap shoot.

We have two confirmed failures -- where they are in the world is irrelevant.

Is it gauranteed the trans will fail -- no, of course not. Is the chance greater than zero -- yep, sure seems to be the case.

If GTM or Stillen or any other professional shop has a clear answer on why the trans's on these cars probably failed and what can be done to greatly minimize the chance, I'll be happy.

So far, I haven't heard anything except that apparently some people are getting rebuilt transmissions.

I'll give you a related example:

The 2ZZ engine (Celica GT-S, Lotus) is known to break ring lands due to overpower at about 300 crank 250 whp. Do they all break? No. Do some break at lower power? Yes. Is it always somewhere in that 250 whp ball park when a ring land fails? pretty much, yes. Thus, through trial and error (and a few broken motors) a "safe" approximate max power on the stock pistons was determined.

You are still taking a chance, of course, but knowing the approximate physical limits and how to get around them (i.e., use forged pistons) meant people could proceed with more confidence that their motor would hold up over time.

The limits and how to get around them for boosted 7AT's remains UN-FVCKING-KNOWN . All we know is that at least two have failed.

Until we hear what failed and why, what the approximate safe limits are and how to either minimize or eliminate the chance of failure, it remains entirely unknown.

Saying "driver error" tells me nothing. That just means the trans is a time bomb and you are one bad day away from a big problem.

Saying it was due to the clutch bands failing, so the shift speed needs to be increased to prevent the extra wear, or the trans has to rebuilt with new clutch bands that are stronger -- THAT tells me something useful. Was it due to the fluid overheating and thus failing to provide sufficient lubrication -- that can probably be fixed with a stouter trans cooler. I dunno -- beats me. No one has said yet.

Anyway, until someone gives me a clear answer like that, I'd say it's a crap shoot.

Everyone else can do what they want with their car -- but don't pretend that it's incredibly unlikely anything will fail -- clearly that's not the case.

What did you say -- 15 people have boosted 7AT's? Okay 2/15 is still a failure rate of 13% 20 people? 2/20 = 10% failure rate.

Feeling luckier yet?

Show me 100 sucess stories (failure rate of 2%) and I'll feel a little better.

Want to really make me confident my trans won't be a time bomb? Then show me people racing it at the track. Show me people beating the hell out of it without breaking something -- why have all that power if you can't use it? Show me people fidinding the limits and then figuring out how to get around them. Not this "driver error" horsesh!t explanation.

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