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Originally Posted by BLM
YouTube - Nissan 370Z vs. BMW 135i, Mazda RX-8 R3, and Pontiac Solstice GXP - Car and Driver
370Z beats the 135i stock vs stock and is $4000 cheaper. The straight line accel is identical and the 135i has more low end torque (duh) but the 370Z is the clear winner in this comparison. Also, I've been doing some reading and if you just do an ECU tune and turn up the boost on the 135i it wont perform nearly as well or as reliably as if you added supporting mods like FMIC, exhaust, fuel pump, etc, which will bring the modding cost over $2k. So, yes, a bolt on 135i with tune will make close to 400 whp, but that's total about $6 grand more than a stock Z. The point? If you make the cars equal in price, that is invest $6 grand into a stock Z just for power (SC or TT), the Z will still make more power and have the superior handling if left stock in that dept.
They're both great cars for sure, but in independent testing, the Z wins and comes in a lot ($4000 to me is a lot of money) cheaper than the 135i.
HOWEVER, if all you want is performance at a price, you'd be better off with a 5.0 Mustang GT. So performance on a track and in a straight line is surely not the only criterion for selecting the car for you.
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Well in short, no. I have one...and I DD on the tune that makes almost 400rwhp. It is perfectly reliable and I have literally not done a thing to it other than a tune. I get over 35 mpg on the Highway. My modding cost is $500...and I guarantee you it will destroy a 370z with $2000 in mods on a drag strip, driver comfort, or on a road course. Why can't you just admit that that's pretty awesome?
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Originally Posted by wolf370z
No offense but you're smoking some good stuff if you think you can get any sort of forced induction on a 370z for $6k.... You MIGHT get an OKAY supercharger/supporting mods for double what you suggested.. but by the time you have a bolt-on/tuned 135i and a based twin turbo 370z you're comparing a barely modified 135i to a drastically modified 370z. Yes, an NA to FI conversion is a huge change. It's not really fair...
For the record, I meant the 135i would leave the 370z in the dust... acceleration wise. The 370z outshines the 135i in the curves...
And yeah, a '11 Mustang GT would be far better bang for the buck than either of these two cars.. or *gasp* a c5z06.
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Finally somebody with some sense!! The 370z is a great car, and I'd own one again. It just isn't very tunable! It would take $10k to do what $500 got me in the BMW. That's a huge positive in my book. And in all honesty, the Z doesn't handle that much better. With just some sway bars and/or a $1200 coilover kit it will have zero trouble keeping up with a 370 in the turns, and will blow by it on the straights. The Mustang is a lot of fun to drive...but it is not a fun car to tell people you have. I do like them, but unfortunately the last 20 years of Mustang history has really tainted the namesake.