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Originally Posted by MightyBobo
This thread is fairly hilarious - its like the lazymans approach to car modding. Like you should be able to walk into a McDonalds and see everything you wanted to know about every part all nicely laid out for you on a buffet table to choose from.
With your previous post, you've spoken the obvious that everyone already knew - the price/value relationship will generally be drastically inverted the more power gains you have. Of course, this is related to similar parts (you cant compare the value of a 100WHP gain from juice to the cost of 100HP from a supercharger...).
You are not entitled to have all the information you want, simply because you have cash. Sometimes, its even like comparing apples to apples, and its all preference.
Tell you what...how about companies do exactly what you want on one condition: they do it on the same day that every single car/motor from a manufacturer is IDENTICAL to each other, down to the tenth of a horsepower. Enough that whatever mod you do will give the EXACT SAME RESULT on another car. And that is yet another reason why they dont advertise numbers - your results will vary. You even said it yourself - "on average", "should net", "should get you within a few whp". Can you guarantee? No.
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Who said anything about entitlement?
This is a request.
Average (or maybe modal) gains are more telling, provided you have enough data points, than extreme outliers (the gain "up to" argument). That doesn't make the information useless. Every car is not all that different -- it's the same motor with only one of two drivetrains (and limited evidence of any loss differences between them).
The biggest variable factors will be type of dynamometer and correction factor. I have a feeling miles of break-in may play a role too. Anyway, that's why I look at (and talk about) % changes rather than raw values -- it's much more consistent.
What's hilarious is the degree of outrage this thread has inspired by
consumers... you guys should demand more info not less.
Ironically, the food info analogy is fairly apt: Yeah, I do like knowing the calorie, fat, protien, carb, etc content of the food I eat.
Why is that a bad thing?
Having more info enables you to make smarter choices about what suits your needs, no?
Does that spoil the magic and the mystery for you or something?
