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jerryd87 · 03-12-2011, 06:55 PM

sorry i had to make a account here just to post a response to this kid. look dude plain and simple people here are trying to help you. you said you want titanium internals? well if you make a crank and pistons out of titanium your going to have problems not sure what will happen because i dont know the metallurgy of titanium but there has to be a reason no one uses it, not even funny cars they still use billet aluminum pistons and billet steel cranks. a few cars do use titanium rods mainly the corvette z06, problem is no one makes them for a 370 and its not as simple as using a mold someone has or copying a current steel design onto titanium your going to have to pay someone to design a rod for you then either cast it or machine it out of billet. since production high end rods go for 1k i would expect to spend roughly 20-25% of your budget on rods alone if you go this route.

You mention reliability but do you understand how horsepower is made? its essentially just torque over a period of time where as torque is an instantaneous snapshot of force, that's the easiest way i can put it so you can understand it. put simply the number one way to make hp in a n/a vehicle is through rpms F= M x A when you use forced induction you are increasing the "mass" on exerted on the rotating assembly with n/a you increase the "acceleration" in terms of higher rpms and faster pistons speeds, either way you are sacrificing reliability no matter what method you use for increased power nothing you can do to counteract this. a n/a engine can only make so much power because you can only fit so much air into the cylinders an can only spin the engine so fast.

Bottom line is if you want a little bit faster throw some bolt on on there for n/a power your not going to get much from them but your not gonna sacrifice that much reliability. but your not going to be that much faster either.
If you want alot faster the ONLY methods are superchargers, turbos and nitrous. Dont mess with nitrous just by reading your posts your too inexperienced, you can have reliability from it but if you dont know what your doing there is no faster way to blow an engine. i had a 84 camaro with a 300 shot of nitrous on it that mad it 26 passes down the dragstrip before i melted a piston and that was using a window switch AND jacobs mastermind granted at 150 bucks for a new longblock at a junkyard i dint care.
Super chargers will give you a power band that feels "stock" just alot faster your limiting your power with these though but for the street they are more then enough.
finally the reason everyone recommends turbos nowadays is because they are advanced enough now that you can have damn near a supercharger power band or you can have insane power numbers aka the supra and there are 350z's out there making power numbers similar just not nearly as many of them. with a properly designed system you can have a car that performs exactly how YOU want it to for the way YOU drive. no offense to your uncle but this isnt anything he is used to, if i told my uncle i was going to build a 700 hp 350z he would tell me its impossible without a 400+ cubic inch motor because they dont know current tech. even though many many people have surpassed this with engines this size or smaller.

overall you really shouldnt do anything to your car you need to drive it stock get used to it and in the meantime learn everything you can about the car every car is different and you need to know about your car. if you dont you are plain and simple going to be another statistic in a box and then your family is going to deal with the consequences most notably not having a son anymore. i grew up in a town with a 40K+ a year collage and we had it every year on average 5 crashs a year where a 18 or 19 year old rich kid killed himself or others because his parents bought him a viper/corvette/porsche/add another vehicle here.

Now dont get me wrong im not "hatin" good for you on the car i love z cars since i got my 350 which is why i dont drive camaros anymore. however you need to understand cars before you try something like this, you dont need to do the work yourself but you need to understand at a bare minimum how these things effec your car. with that long *** post good luck and enjoy your car =D

ps. you mentioned you would turbo the hell outa a supra just so yah know the supra has a 3L motor compared to the 370s 3.7L this means the power comes on sooner with turbos and is better for streetability over a supra

03-12-2011, 06:55 PM	#34 (permalink)
jerryd87 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: oahu, hawaii Posts: 2 Drives: 03 350z ent. 6 speed Rep Power: 14	sorry i had to make a account here just to post a response to this kid. look dude plain and simple people here are trying to help you. you said you want titanium internals? well if you make a crank and pistons out of titanium your going to have problems not sure what will happen because i dont know the metallurgy of titanium but there has to be a reason no one uses it, not even funny cars they still use billet aluminum pistons and billet steel cranks. a few cars do use titanium rods mainly the corvette z06, problem is no one makes them for a 370 and its not as simple as using a mold someone has or copying a current steel design onto titanium your going to have to pay someone to design a rod for you then either cast it or machine it out of billet. since production high end rods go for 1k i would expect to spend roughly 20-25% of your budget on rods alone if you go this route. You mention reliability but do you understand how horsepower is made? its essentially just torque over a period of time where as torque is an instantaneous snapshot of force, that's the easiest way i can put it so you can understand it. put simply the number one way to make hp in a n/a vehicle is through rpms F= M x A when you use forced induction you are increasing the "mass" on exerted on the rotating assembly with n/a you increase the "acceleration" in terms of higher rpms and faster pistons speeds, either way you are sacrificing reliability no matter what method you use for increased power nothing you can do to counteract this. a n/a engine can only make so much power because you can only fit so much air into the cylinders an can only spin the engine so fast. Bottom line is if you want a little bit faster throw some bolt on on there for n/a power your not going to get much from them but your not gonna sacrifice that much reliability. but your not going to be that much faster either. If you want alot faster the ONLY methods are superchargers, turbos and nitrous. Dont mess with nitrous just by reading your posts your too inexperienced, you can have reliability from it but if you dont know what your doing there is no faster way to blow an engine. i had a 84 camaro with a 300 shot of nitrous on it that mad it 26 passes down the dragstrip before i melted a piston and that was using a window switch AND jacobs mastermind granted at 150 bucks for a new longblock at a junkyard i dint care. Super chargers will give you a power band that feels "stock" just alot faster your limiting your power with these though but for the street they are more then enough. finally the reason everyone recommends turbos nowadays is because they are advanced enough now that you can have damn near a supercharger power band or you can have insane power numbers aka the supra and there are 350z's out there making power numbers similar just not nearly as many of them. with a properly designed system you can have a car that performs exactly how YOU want it to for the way YOU drive. no offense to your uncle but this isnt anything he is used to, if i told my uncle i was going to build a 700 hp 350z he would tell me its impossible without a 400+ cubic inch motor because they dont know current tech. even though many many people have surpassed this with engines this size or smaller. overall you really shouldnt do anything to your car you need to drive it stock get used to it and in the meantime learn everything you can about the car every car is different and you need to know about your car. if you dont you are plain and simple going to be another statistic in a box and then your family is going to deal with the consequences most notably not having a son anymore. i grew up in a town with a 40K+ a year collage and we had it every year on average 5 crashs a year where a 18 or 19 year old rich kid killed himself or others because his parents bought him a viper/corvette/porsche/add another vehicle here. Now dont get me wrong im not "hatin" good for you on the car i love z cars since i got my 350 which is why i dont drive camaros anymore. however you need to understand cars before you try something like this, you dont need to do the work yourself but you need to understand at a bare minimum how these things effec your car. with that long *** post good luck and enjoy your car =D ps. you mentioned you would turbo the hell outa a supra just so yah know the supra has a 3L motor compared to the 370s 3.7L this means the power comes on sooner with turbos and is better for streetability over a supra Last edited by jerryd87; 03-12-2011 at 07:01 PM.