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Old 01-22-2011, 01:17 PM   #94 (permalink)
Scott @ RA
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First of all, you are comparing what exists right now in the real world currently (our rotors), to something that does not even exist yet from GiroDosc for this application. Second of all, I'm not too sure but isn't this GiroDisc (maybe if you can get enough interest) possible group buy thing just about the front pair, and not all four like what we offer?

I am sure we probably have two completely different motivations here. I/we bit off this very time consuming and very expensive project for this community because I felt that this was something that was desperately needed. Unlike 99% of other companies (yes, including THM)..turning profit and making money is NOT my/our motivation at all here with these rotors. These rotors cost me much more time and money to design and produce than I will ever probably see much of a profit from, if any at all. I'm fairly sure that can't be said for GiroDisc, the people peddling GiroDisc or any other company or product for that matter..... and that's just fine, no harm in that.

I am just very proud of the fact that a way smaller company like ourselves can and have accomplished FIRST, what NO other brake manufacturer has still successfully been able to do. Other well known bigger brake manufacturers have been promising this G37 & 370Z Akebono brake community light weight two piece rotors for over two years now, and still only have the (fairly easy to make) front pair to show for.

As for superior material.... I have used a lot of my background and my families in racing with our vast resources to aid in this project. We have consulted with several racing industry brake rotor specialists, aerospace engineers, metallurgists, etc about the VERY best possible tried and true design in the casting of the outer rotor as well as the decision of what exotic blend of metals to use, and even what temperature and process we would use to have poured in the molds for casting.
There was NO costs or corners cut in the process of making these rotors. It might even border on overkill for most people. I feel if you are going to do something like this, do it once and the absolute best way you can. We did the whole design, machining, and assembly here in house, everything but the outer rotor casting, which we also control.
Sure, we could have made these quite a bit cheaper with still some success without all the added cost of all the processes and attentional to detail. I felt it was best to make these rotors to the best of our resources would allow.
Brakes are without a doubt the single most important thing on a race car or performance car for both a safety and a performance aspect. Brakes deserve to be made the best you can without any corners cut, no matter how tedious and small.

So when I see other companies jump on our bandwagon it pains me to see them use generic, one way fits all cost cutting methods, standard grey cast iron, non tempered, non stress relieved, and heat treated rotors, with some sort of cost saving universal right or left vented design, etc. I am not trying to single out GiroDisc or any company imparticular here, just a generalization. I also see a lot of loose term use of the phrase "floating rotor", but have yet to see a working, TRUE full floating hardware design like the T-Lock and groove design we use out there in the market either, for that matter.

So, yes, I will go as far as saying I have NO problem saying our Relentless Autosports two piece rotor (design & materials) is NOT inferior to anything out there on the market for brake rotors for this or any application. There is NOTHING better out there short of the $7-$10,000 exotic carbon, carbon/Kevlar, etc style rotors that could consider being superior.

In fact, if ever there was a true comparable solution that is even close to meeting or exceeding the particulars of these rotors we make, I would GLADLY stop making these things. These are not easy to make for us, they are not cheap at all to produce (especially in very small runs like we have to do). For what you are getting, our RA rotors are WAY BEYOND reasonably priced, period.
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