It'll also depend on the track. Mine sprays it pretty wide, so I'm unable to line up far enough to totally get both tires onto the non-VHT surface. I was forced to granny it out of the hole using 1/2 throttle in first and easing into second to net low 14 second times. I'm quite a bit quicker on the street because I'm able to actually launch the car. Easily getting a 13.7 with 2.0 60 ft on my Vbox.
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