One thing I will also say is GT5P for PS3 had shitty online, like lag and the slightest bump in anyone's car and you would go flying into the grass. Even if you tried to not bump someone or evade them, if they touched you you would probably get like a 4 second penalty. I'm hoping online is much better then GT5p, if GT5 is better online wise the game will last. Forza's damage looks really great, my most favorite part of the game was damage, but when it comes down to simulation GT5 hands down.
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