[QUOTE=bigaudiofanat;847927]Kind of going both ways there aren't you?
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Yep i figured i'd give the Alpine one more shot, as the last Alpine i tried was 10 years ago. And i didn't like any of the new pioneers, thus why the last one i bought was 6 years ago.
A few of my trusted Coworkers have had the oposite experiance with the Pioneer/Alpine thing, so i gave them another chance.