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Originally Posted by djamalt
R3 - not a fan of the two-wheeled types eh? It's all good, on behalf of my moto-brothers out there, we still love you. But you bring up some good points about the type of drive and knowing when and where to do different types of driving. I'd imagine Ojai in the morn just after the sun gets up high enough to be out of your eyes would be Shangrilah! But I digress.
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Don't have problem with most motor bike riders, just the inexperienced ones are the prob. A run isn't just getting up a 11am and throwing on some kyane west music and driving like a nut thru the canyons.
A run is all about you the road & early in the morning on a weekend. The back roads im talking about have a western open face to them, so the sunset is to bight so the early the better.
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Coyote, deer, rabbits, squirrels - they all seem to have a serious lack of periphreal vision and think they own the road. So yes folks, watch out - there are plenty of them critters in the canyons. And if you happen to notice the oncoming lane is dirty in a turn, expect a biker or cyclist to take it wide and be ready to adjust. Loose gravel tends to scare the sh** out of the two-wheeled types in a blind turn and panic can set in real quick. 
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abs and large brakes wont save you from this stuff , and I don't believe rocks coming thru floor board are not covered by Nissan warranty.
a run is 2 cars
