Originally Posted by Chris@WheelsDirectOnline.com

Not to get in a p... war here, but in a sense lemans was right and you are a little bit off. Right now by what you said though, seems like you are what we call a "brand whore", not saying anything bad. Its like the guy that wont buy or admit Hyundai is actually making good cars now, b/c they arent a lexus or Nissan.

You say Avant Garde, who are they, but who is Vossen? THey both make a cast wheel, and what you need to do is see the certifications and pressure tests, to really shoot your theory. Just b/c the brand is not known, does not mean its a good company. History is important, but everyone started somewhere, and Avant and Vossen are both making great products. You should not be scared to try something new, just b/c their name isnt big. Sometimes its better to deal with the little guy, b/c more likely then most, the customer service is always more personal and one on one. That is my 2 cents, and I apologize for derailing the thread. I just dont like when people shoot down new brands, b/c THEY havent heard of them.