Originally Posted by Pharmacist

this was nothing but sour grapes from the sore losers at porsche. no evidence was ever provided that nissan cheated in that test. and even if they did cheat, what is to say that the saints at chevrolet, porche, dodge, mercedes, and other companies do not also cheat during their own manufacturer-run record attempts? also i remember the engineer who set he ring recort in the cts-v saying that engineers are faster than race car drivers on the ring because tehy spend hunderds of hours over several weeks and months studying the track and the car and optimizing everything about their lap as opposed to professional drivers who hardly ever drive on the ring. besides, the gtr has proven its potency on several other tracks other than nurburgring. see List of Top Gear test track Power Lap Times - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Even in the top gear track, the gtr is surrounded by such prestigious company as porche 997 gt2, carrera gt, ferrari 430 scuderia, 458 italia, 599 gtb, slr mclaren, koenigsegg ccx, lambo murcielago, gallardo. whether 80k or 100k, the gtr will still remain the bargain supercar