I've had poor experiences with Turtle Waxes ICE line as well. I purchased the ICE polish paste, which never yielded good results, and the ICE clay kit which yielded extremely poor results because the clay is far too hard for the paint. With even a gentle motion and plenty of lubricant (the ICE detailer or Meguiar's Quik Detailer), it would leave engraved back and forth motion scratches. I've had much better results with Meguiar's Gold Class products, and even the Mother clay kit is much, much softer for an OTC clay kit. The ICE liquid clay is decent, for what it is. But it can only be applied after a wash (while car still wet). The only other thing that hasn't been terrible is the ICE tire shine, which gives a decent shine (not greasy in my opinion).
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