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Originally Posted by imag
I hate to say it, but the nature of this car is overweight (I almost said "fat pig", but that title belongs to the Camaro), 3300 lbs. is too much for a proper sports car - and it stems from the fact that under the Z has a sedan platform at heart.
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I've driven fat pig cars before (the cousin of the aforementioned Camaro). The Z is plenty nimble even stock, imho.
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I'm not trying to rip on the Z, but I am pointing out that the uber-weight-conscious wouldn't buy this car in the first place (it took some getting over for me). It's 200 lbs. more than a 'vette, 500 more than a S2000, and over 1200 more than an Elise.
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The 'vette costs more and quite frankly I'm done with the big 3 US automakers anyways. The Elise is considerably more costly as well, and comes with a matching downgrade in horsepower to go with that downgrade in weight. The S2000 is a valid argument if modded to hell, but I just don't like the car really
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Considering the fact that this is basically a GT car, I don't think it's unreasonable to want decent sound, especially when, by the time I ditch the spare, my guess is that the sub is only about a 20 lb bump - if you've got the touring pack, your starting point was 50 lbs. over mine in the first place.
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I don't think it's bad to have decent sound in a car like this either or I'd be ripping the whole sound system out, we just have different definitions of reasonable sound. I like the touring seats, they're comfy
We all make tradeoffs. As I prefixed my opinions earlier at the start of my post: "to each his own".
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Sorry if I come across as grumpy, but I'm not even sure why I'm getting a hard time. Yes, I want to add some weight, but I'm trying to balance it out with weight savings on the other end. Realistically, its basically all psychological - I don't have a lap timer, and the car is no doubt faster on the track than I am at this point (which I can at least admit). But after all, isn't this whole board about what people want, for no real reason? I don't see God collecting lap times to find your spot in heaven/hell.
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Nobody's trying to give you a hard time, we're just expressing dissenting opinions. On some philosophical level there may be no reason for anything here, or for the Z to exist. But there has to be some level of rationality to the modding process. To some of us, paying for a Ti exhaust on a car with added audio weight over what the stock system already has seems illogical from a $ to performance ratio perspective. On the other hand, for some people money is no issue to begin with anyways.
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Final point - if I have bass in the car, I will get laid more. My wife loves bass. Even if I didn't, that would be reason enough for me...
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I've had the opposite experience. I pulled the sub out of my car and coincidentally got laid for the first time in a while mere days later