Old Chuck

several times and I will echo what has been said. The P cars have the"feel" that you can do anything especially the mid engine ones. The 911 always feels like it will come around in tight turns but have not driven the all wheel 4S and I have not spend a great amount of time in the newer 911. I was set to buy the Boxster S and then started looking up the amount of engine failures that Porsche has had and decided against it. The newly designed engines may do away with these issues but it remains to be seen. Porsche is great if the failure happens within warranty but if not, they are expensive to replace. There have been those who have replaced two engines then traded for the Z due to cost of a third and peace of mind. All say for the price the Z is the winner but for total driving confidence, all the newer P cars win. You will not see engines heating up or brakes fading on the P's however, for the price you should expect that. You might however, have a low milage engine start leaking at the IMS or RMS and seige on you....All cars have their issues..But for overall driving involvement, a Porsche is hard to beat even with their issues......