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Old 04-18-2009, 08:33 AM   #54 (permalink)
juan05
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
All you had to say was the first sentence, and now I know why you have each others backs lol.

There is a LOT more to why GM and other domestics are struggling right now, than quality issues. Again, you're generalizing instead of looking at the big picture. Just a few reasons off the top of my head:

-Excessive labor costs here, particularly due to health care and retirement. Japanese cars have about $1000 of a cars value going to these things. American cars send about $2000-2500. In the end, thanks to unions, workers are getting FAR too much for how little they do...

-Putting too many eggs in one basket. They hoped the SUV market would explode...which, in actuality, it did. And then oil prices sky rocketed, and as per usual, the consumer got scared. The funny part of all this is that Vespas, which were selling like HOT CAKES a year ago, dropped in sales drastically now that oil is cheaper again. People will never learn...they actually think oil will stay this cheap? lol...

-Too many models, too many brands. How many different versions of the same car do we REALLY need? Dont like the Sierra? Get the Silverado. Dont like the Cobalt? Get the G5. Its excessive and pointless. Same goes for other companies, too. Trim the fat, get rid of the worst companies, and go with your strongest brands and improve on a single car GREATLY, versus improving several cars barely...

I'm not saying that many Japanese cars ARENT superior to many American cars right now. Not at all. All I'm trying to say, is that many American cars aren't NEARLY as bad as you make them seem. The new Malibu is leaps and bounds better in quality and fit/finish than ever before. The Focus is one of the best sub-compacts on the market. ANY American pickup is better than the Ridgeline in utility (no, a silly storage area in the bed would never make me want to buy that poor excuse for a "truck"). Cadillac's CTS is an amazing luxury car, and one of the best in its segment. The Mustang is being viewed by MANY magazines as a huge performance bang-for-the-buck (even over the 370Z).

I could go on and on here. I appreciate your enthusiasm for a particular market, and there is nothing wrong with it. But there is a difference between being enthusiastic for a type of car, versus completely blinding yourself of OTHER types of cars purposefully just because you don't like them. It all goes back to being able to appreciate any type of car (even if its from a brand you don't appreciate), versus just the ones you like.
all i said was jappanesse had better quality. ok american cars have a couple that not enough to beat jappanesse. at the end we will see if gm actually survives this economic problem. i doubt it. but you never know. intul this labor unions actually start doing some real labors except of working just to work. then maybe just maybe american cars will actually be in competition to other foreign cars. till then japan owns. lol
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