View Single Post
Old 04-16-2009, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
nogoodname
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1765
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Thumbs up Protecting yourself at the garage

Read this article in the papers yesterday and thought it was interesting. With the stuff the author said makes my garage a star...lol
I always get the busted parts back and i get to be right beside my car when getting repaired......it got to the point where i'm eating their breakfast doughnuts in the break room....i especially like the part where the owner charges half price for the labour no matter what
and the parts store is right next door, so no "same day" delivery charges.


so, how are your garages that you go to??
any interesting stories??
I have some more stories about the same garage......lol

good thing the general mechanic is a former high end car mechanic that wants to take it easy and work on.....i guess not high end.....



Quote:
Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette

Protecting yourself at the garage


Brian TurnerFor Canwest News Service

The most frustrating part of taking your car in for service is being unable to see what you got for your money.
When else do we ever pay for something we can't see, touch or smell?
Take Mr. Jones. He drops off his car at his favourite repair shop. When he returns at the end of the day to pay his $1,200 bill, he finds his vehicle looking exactly like it did when he dropped it off.
As consumers we place blind trust in those who service our vehicles and, for the most part, that trust is well placed. But it would be nice to know exactly what was done, why and if it actually needed doing in the first place?

What follows is a game plan for protecting yourself. But remember, nothing is more important than establishing a trusting working relationship with a repair shop.

THE MAINTENANCE CONUNDRUM
Dust off that owner's manual in the glove compartment to find out when oil changes and tire rotations and such are due.
The if-it-ain't-broke school of maintenance doesn't consider the cost of inconvenience and unreliability. Who do you think gets emergency priority in my shop on the Friday afternoon of a long weekend; my regular as rain customer or some stranger who has been staring at a dash warning light for three weeks and now has a car that is overheating?
With warning lights the check engine and low tire pressure icons top the list of repeat performers. If you want to save money, check your gas cap. A loose one is the leading reason for the check engine light coming on. It will take three start and warm up cycles on the road to self extinguish it. But if you have any type of symptom to go along with that light such as a rough idle, stalling or transmission shift problem, get it checked.

OIL CHANGES AND A TALE OF THE DIPSTICK
Do yourself a favour and check your engine oil before you drop the car off. If you pull the dipstick before starting the car and it's parked on a relatively level grade, you won't even have to wipe the stick and re-dip to get an accurate reading.
Check the colour of the oil and smell it. For most vehicles the oil will be a very dark brown (almost black) and will smell of gas.
See if you can spot the oil filter. On many front-wheel drives with four cylinder engines it is located low on the front of the engine block. On some four bangers and on most V6 or V8 engines it's impossible to see from above.

Check the other vital vehicle fluids. Many reservoirs are made of plastic that lets you see the fluid level without removing the top. Don't try to remove a pressurized cooling system cap if the engine has been running in the last four hours or so (hot antifreeze burns!). After the oil change has been done, recheck the dipstick. New oil should be a light brown colour (like medium toasted bread) and should have no gas smell. Check the other fluids. Were they topped up? Did anyone take a grease pen and indicate the engine coolant protection mark on the radiator cap?

AIR FILTERS AND TIRE VALVES

Locate the air filter box and look for signs that the latches or screws that hold the lid on have been opened lately. Take a look at the tire valve stems before you leave the service lot. Are the caps clean, indicating they were removed to check the air pressure? Don't forget the spare.

THE TIRE TREATMENT

Did you get the run around wheel treatment? The easiest way to know if your tires were rotated is to mark one on each side of the vehicle and then check to see if they changed position.

FOUR FLUID FLUSHERS

Power steering fluid, transmission fluid, engine coolant, and brake fluid are all targeted these days by service advisers trying to sell their shops' power-flush treatments.
Check your owner's manual to verify the time and mileage recommendations. If your service provider is suggesting an early replacement, ask why.
Automatic transmission fluid will have a very dark red colour (almost brown or black) at the end of its life and a marked burnt smell. Your new fluid should be a much lighter red (rose wine). Power steering fluid will go from brown to clear, coolant from dark green or red to a clearer brighter shade.
Brake fluid will likely look the same before and after. The reason it's replaced is to remove any water content caused by condensation. Find the brake master cylinder cap (yes that owner's manual is good for something) and see if it's been opened lately.

SIGNS OF BRAKE REPLACEMENTS

The rotors should have a clean, dull silver finish if they've been replaced or resurfaced. There should be no rust if they were changed and rust on the edges if they were resurfaced.
When a tech replaces pads or rotors, he will clear rust away from the tracks the pads travel on and thoroughly lubricate them so the pads can retract when letting off the pedal. This means more distance for the pad to move when going from no brakes to full application and more pedal movement.

DON'T BE SHY, JUST ASK

If your service consultant is patient and explains the repairs made, then he deserve your repeat business. Keep in mind time restraints and peak customer traffic periods at your shop's service counter.
If you're thoughtful enough to ask when's the best time for a few questions, you're bound to get all the professional attention you need.
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote