Storm- There are many reasons I have not directly answered your post and to be honest, this will probably be the last time I do. It's because you are a heavily biased member of the forum and all of your questions/posts are only intended to make STILLEN look bad. Why would I waste my time going back and forth with someone who clearly only has one goal in mind...Whether it is our supercharger, urethane, or anything else you seem intent on tearing it down.
However, for the knowledge of the member's of this forum I will respond to your post.
In specific response to the Supra thread. I have absolutely no idea what could have been going on there. As you said, that thread was from seven years ago and it was only one person saying that. For all I know he is in the same boat as you and just doesn't like STILLEN for whatever reason. Or, there could be something with that mold. Keeping in mind that we have sold thousands of those fascia's it could very well be something with the age of the mold. Again, these parts cure at well over 200 degrees. The molds go through quite a bit of abuse through their life and we do our best to maintain and periodically replace our molds as necessary.
Moving on to the 350Z however, here are a few threads that might be of interest to some of the member's here:
Do these bumpers need a lot of prep work? PIC INSIDE*** - MY350Z.COM Forums
OP's opening line:
"I HATE fiberglass and will never get myself involved with it ever again but i have a stillen front bumper on my Z now that came with it when i bought it but i dont like it too much anymore because it looks to much like a porche and isnt edgy enough for my taste but the bumper is super strong, has no cracks chips or anything and is super smooth and its urethane. Now i dont know if a lot of work was put into it other than paint work when the other guy before me had it but i just wanted to know if the bumper below would need any prep work (ie-fitment/bodywork) before paint and instalation. now i know its the ing+1 FRONT BUMPER but i found this on ebay with free shipping for $300 and thought it was a good deal unless these bumpers need more work then just paint/bolt on and go...
any info would be helpfull. Thanks... "
I have no problem with someone not liking the design we came up with...We're not trying to say we're the only option out there, but look at the positive things he says about the fascia.
Here is another 350Z thread discussing our body kit:
Stillen 350Z Bodykit - MY350Z.COM Forums
And some interesting and relevant posts from that thread:
MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - Stillen 350Z Bodykit
This post has plenty of pictures from multiple angles and they all look like the fascia and other body components fit nicely to me.
MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - Stillen 350Z Bodykit
This post is from one of our customer's who has had the body kit on his vehicle's (2 different cars) for 13 and 16 years and is very pleased with them. Also, he is located in Georgia which I'm sure you would agree is a pretty hot climate.
MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - Stillen 350Z Bodykit
Another Series 2 fascia owner and again, the fitment looks good to me...
I am not trying to call anyone a liar but I am saying that there are a long list of variables to consider. Who did the installation? How was the installation performed? Were all of the instructions followed from beginning to end including, was the correct preparation done prior to paint all the way to, was a reinforcement bracket removed from the factory fascia to our STILLEN fascia. It is not possible to offer a blanket statement about a particular product because there are just too many things that can be different or can be a related issue. For example, you even stated yourself that you experienced an issue with your fascia but sold the car. You make no mention of notifying STILLEN or asking for assistance or anything...
STILLEN has been manufacturing urethane body kits in house for well over 20 years. We also manufacture and private label body kits for some of the largest automotive tuner's in the world. I wish I could disclose the names of some of these other companies but contracts prevent me from doing so.
Also, I do take personal offence to someone who makes claims like our design is a rip off of any other companies designs. I was heavily involved in the design of this body kit and I can promise you I had never seen that GT R body kit prior to your post. With that being said, it is very common to borrow lines and designs from other vehicle's and adapt them to work on a body kit. For example, during the development of our Series 2 body kit for the 350Z we actually had a die cast car of a Ferrari 360 Modena in our design studio. We liked the looks of those scoops and wanted to develop them to be functional. So, we made them functional brake ducts. The side vents that you see on our fascia are functional by incorporating oil coolers on the sides. Additionally the center fangs are going to be functional brake ducting as well. We also incorporated a top vent which is a functional "ram air" to our Gen. 3 intakes and supercharger intakes. If someone doesn't like the look of our design, that's fine. Not everyone is going to like the look of every body kit out there...That's the beauty of this business, there are plenty of other offerings...