Ok...Test drove a manual touring. Kept the seat heater on. I could shift and drive with no problems and my back is okay. Between the drive and test-sit BSing with the saleman, I spent about 1.5 hours in the seat.
For the record I am 6'1, 225 lbs, no butt. 25 lbs worth of gut and my head is big too. Have a 35 inch inseam.
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