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Originally Posted by de_dust
1st of, its a forum... a medium to discuss ur opinions and share information... and hopefully as civil as possible..the main goal is to help each other out with what we want to accomplish with our Zs... it doesnt matter if u've set ur preference, what matter is if the information you have presented has some validity...
for example, u'r making a statement that Sam is not having enough time to test the kit... how can you confirm this and how can you assert that he doesnt have techs working for him to help him with the work... perhaps there are 10 sam's at GTM right now... on the other hand, ur using this assumption to imply stillen is doing better testing... are you privvy to how much testing to actually have logged... have you seen any information that has not been presented to everyone else... they do testing and yet they have not provided the statistics to support their tests... so how can you claim that the kit is functioning as designed... i hope you see the fallacies of ur observation ...
it doesnt make sense to me for u to assert insecurities as the reason for the information that was presented... a better analogy would be a dumb pretty girl doing something stupid and saying ur just mad because ur jealous of my prettiness as an excuse for what they did..
all im trying to accomplish is to get more information that will either disprove or confirm the theories that were presented so i can make my decision and help out those who are undecided... information that Stillen actually should already have and for whatever reason has not presented... in fact, the only conclusion i have stated is how it would be illogical for someone to post a deposit at this time with the stillen kit because of the lack of info...  |
Point taken, they clearly have a different policy about releasing information than GTM does.
It just seems like people are still trying to take more cracks at this kit and arriving at conclusions that are impossible to arrive to without facts. If you want to talk specifically about one thing or another such as the merits of air to air cooling then so be it, but don't post findings that only support one side when the other side also clearly has some advantages. Otherwise it wouldn't exist.
You know, it may just have been a little illogical, but I had then and have today some good reasons to choose this kit. Nothing to do with what I think of GTM, more to do with the fact that I see things in their design that I don't like. What I'm trying to say is that you showed me both kits and didnt tell me which brand made which I would, without a doubt, choose the stillen one. You may think otherwise for your own reasons, but I got my reasons.
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Originally Posted by DannyGT
I still dont understand, after all the talk about their "testing" and yet you guys are about to receive kits that you know MUCH less about compared to the GTM guys. I think this is why we are getting on your (stillen fanboy's)case. Its not in the slightest about insecurity and more about, wtf are you guys smoking?
I get tired of trying to argue about this **** too, but de_dust's post was spot on and just you dismiss it? I think THAT shows who are the insecure bunch. It was just weeks ago that you hated Storm's guts and now that you see he is a man of his word and really brought out some valuable information to the boards (he had great info before his car was released too) everyone all of a sudden has nothing to say.
Other than that, I just wanted to point out that Sam has a crew that apparently does their work right which allows him to be in so many places at once. So nothing is delayed because of other projects.
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Like I said, they definitely have a different policy on the info they release. I for one don't care which kit you guys get, I know which one I'm getting and why and that's all that really matters. I'm not getting on your case about it.
The reason I didnt reply to his post was because its pointless. There were people who put money down or chose to buy the GTM kit before there was even a formal release! I don't see you guys on their case about making a choice without info. Also, you don't know what info I had or didn't have to make a judgment. I do realize thought that he took the time to write it so at least I can reply.
I hated storms guts because he did NOTHING but post inflammatory comments towards every person that came around. He didn't do ANYTHING to help the site and overall I don't like people that bring everyone else down. I still don't see where he has benefited the boards much, but I can see that he is no longer being an *** so whatever, I have no reason to still hate his guts. I dont know how he is a man of his word? Not sure what word that was that he came through on. Maybe because I had him on ignore for a while, I dont know.
If you guys want to chat, take it to PM. This doesn't belong in this thread.