yea skip the salesman just go straight to the manager. I went in and told him exactly what i wanted (black/persimmon/touring/sport/nav/kickplates/splashguards,mats) he said 'what were you looking to spend. i said 37500 (invoice 2010) and no dealer fee's etc. he wrote it down on the purchase order and i put my deposit down. no haggling.
-Jeff
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