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Old 03-02-2010, 08:51 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Denny McLain View Post
My issue here is fourfold.

1. No company should be selling a product until it is ready and Cobb openly solicited 370Z business indicating they were ready to sell the unit. They originally scanned my car prior to get some of the initial ECU information. I purchased the unit only after they indicated it was ready for sale. Thinking smart is one thing, being ethical and doing the right thing is another.

We are all human, that is not to say there will not be bugs in the first units built or improvements coming, however it simply should at least be able to do basic tunes if your openly asking people to purchase your product.

2. Let me get this right......You're on the supply/profit side asking people to spend money for something that doesn't work correctly hoping Cobb will put efforts into making it work correctly so you can sell more? How about just sending Cobb some of your cash and maybe they will make it work correctly so you can sell more of them.

3. Not a fan of canned tunes as they can be spot on, or way off. You need the specific vehicle on a dyno to objectively measure the gains and parameters contributing to making the gains. Again canned tunes do have certain have applications however, being once sponsored by a dyno shop it's something I've literally seen hundreds of times.

4. This goes back to tuning N/A applications and forced induction applications. Unless the factory tune is way off or the car is heavily modded (cams, heads, compression, strokers, etc,) you typically will not see drastic changes after tuning. Believe there might be an unrealistic expectation that simply ain't gonna be there.
Wow...haha...I just logged in because I was going to post something very similar to what you just did.

I've had my AP for nearly a year now and I feel like I've been cheated out of $700 (well technically only about $550 because I could have bought a good ScanGauge for about $150 that does what my AP currently does). I do have hope that COBB will eventually figure out the VVEL system and fix the other problems, and release staged maps but, honestly, my patience is running a bit thin. I'm actually thinking of trying to return the item or sell it to some 350Z owner.

COBB - if you do read this, please know that there are actually A LOT MORE 370Z owners that would buy the AP if it had staged maps that showed some good gains. I think figuring out the VVEL system, along with fixing the tuning issues, is worth putting some more resources into, esp. since G37 owners will also benefit from this (and who knows what other Nissan/Infiniti cars the VVEL technology will be used in).
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