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Originally Posted by AJ@ECSMotorsports
Agreed that Cobb focuses their priority on their main lines... turbo cars in general, then Subarus and Mitsus. Recently, they dove into the Mazdaspeed3/6 market (I have a Mazdaspeed6 and we've been waiting for Cobb FOREVER). When they finally did, people jumped on Cobb AccessPORTs like there was no tomorrow.
It's safe, easy, fast, and very efficient when it comes to power gains. This is why WRX/STi people love them.
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AJ
Being you're in the business then you know a deaf, dumb, blind person can play mean pinball tuning a forced induction vehicle. They are tremendously more responsive to tuning especially if you can tweak the boost. More comparing apples to oranges and N/A to forced induction falls into that category. It ain't and never will be the same.
[/QUOTE]We've been selling 370Z Cobb APs in the sponsor classifieds section for a few months now.
How many have we sold? Answer - 8
That's nothing compared to the number we've sold for other cars (in the dozens).
If 370Z enthusiasts realize the true benefits and effectiveness of the Cobb AP, they will see more maps developed for them, from Stage 1 basic intake bolt on, to Stage 4+ upgraded twin turbo reflash maps. They aren't that huge of a company, so they can't put as much time into their R&D as they'd like. They are thinking smart, and I would too.
If more people purchase the Cobb APs, and email them more, we'll see more maps, and an decrease in time it takes to develop these maps as well.
Just my .02
Regards,
AJ
ECS Motorsports[/QUOTE]
My issue here is fourfold.
1. No company should be selling a product until it is ready and Cobb openly solicited 370Z business indicating they were ready to sell the unit. They originally scanned my car prior to get some of the initial ECU information. I purchased the unit only after they indicated it was ready for sale. Thinking smart is one thing, being ethical and doing the right thing is another.
We are all human, that is not to say there will not be bugs in the first units built or improvements coming, however it simply should at least be able to do basic tunes if your openly asking people to purchase your product.
2. Let me get this right......You're on the supply/profit side asking people to spend money for something that doesn't work correctly hoping Cobb will put efforts into making it work correctly so you can sell more? How about just sending Cobb some of your cash and maybe they will make it work correctly so you can sell more of them.
3. Not a fan of canned tunes as they can be spot on, or way off. You need the specific vehicle on a dyno to objectively measure the gains and parameters contributing to making the gains. Again canned tunes do have certain have applications however, being once sponsored by a dyno shop it's something I've literally seen hundreds of times.
4. This goes back to tuning N/A applications and forced induction applications. Unless the factory tune is way off or the car is heavily modded (cams, heads, compression, strokers, etc,) you typically will not see drastic changes after tuning. Believe there might be an unrealistic expectation that simply ain't gonna be there.
Truthfully, if all the software did for me was fuel/air @ wot, timing, rev limit and speed limit w/o adversely effecting anything else..I'd be a happy camper. Being one of the original people to purchase the unit and 9-10 months later still not working and finding it causes issues.......time to painfully say "no mas."
The physicians creed is: "Above all, do no harm" This adverise effect on driving fuel/air ain't cutting it in my book at all.