40th paint color match problem

nismo 1234 · 11-04-2011, 11:44 PM

hey guys,
so i'm getting an amuse front and side skirt installed, but i got a call from the body shop saying that the color code "KAV" doesnt match properly with the body. he said if oem color is 100%, the color code KAV is about 85-90% matched. so they gotta bring in a guy to color match the color

did any of you guys have this problem from the body shop?
or did they get the wrong color code?

thanks

Trips · 11-04-2011, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismo 1234

hey guys,
so i'm getting an amuse front and side skirt installed, but i got a call from the body shop saying that the color code "KAV" doesnt match properly with the body. he said if oem color is 100%, the color code KAV is about 85-90% matched. so they gotta bring in a guy to color match the color

did any of you guys have this problem from the body shop?
or did they get the wrong color code?

thanks

That color is a special order 40th paint from Nissan. They could try to match it but honestly it's not going to look the same. The paint order thru nissan is not cheap but you'll have no choice if you want it to match like factory paint.

someone can clarify if I have my facts incorrect

nismo 1234 · 11-05-2011, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's

That color is a special order 40th paint from Nissan. They could try to match it but honestly it's not going to look the same. The paint order thru nissan is not cheap but you'll have no choice if you want it to match like factory paint.

someone can clarify if I have my facts incorrect

thanks for letting me know

ill call nissan first thing in the morning tmr

anyone got their 40th painted without ordering paint from factory??

djpathfinder · 11-05-2011, 03:15 AM

Did you try drcolorchip.com ? Any good paint source should be able to provide the right color based on the paint code (KAV). Paint process, paint batch, number of coats, weathering, clear coat application and other factors can affect the look of the finished product. Realize, even paint on metal vs. plastic from the factory will not match 100%. Plastic bumpers usually come out darker, and that is at least partially because they are not painted by the same machines at the same time. Unfortunately, "ball park" is as close as you can hope for, unless you opt for the body shop to strip and paint other body panels at the same time or blend into them. I wouldn't recommend that because factory finish is always going to be better because of the baking involved that can't be reproduced after assembly.

xdeslitx · 11-05-2011, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's

That color is a special order 40th paint from Nissan. They could try to match it but honestly it's not going to look the same. The paint order thru nissan is not cheap but you'll have no choice if you want it to match like factory paint.

someone can clarify if I have my facts incorrect

my body shop had to order the paint directly from nissan

nismo 1234 · 11-05-2011, 08:00 PM

i called Nissan this morning.........they said they dont sell paint

ill ask our one of the sponsors

LMBmikeZ · 11-06-2011, 12:23 AM

Door handles

Check out this thread the one guy has different formulas for a bunch of different parts. All of his stuff seems to have turned out nice...

He might be able to recommend a different product and or have the exact match formula.

nismo 1234 · 11-06-2011, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

Door handles

Check out this thread the one guy has different formulas for a bunch of different parts. All of his stuff seems to have turned out nice...

He might be able to recommend a different product and or have the exact match formula.

thanks for sharing that link!! i sent him a PM

onzedge · 11-06-2011, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder

Did you try drcolorchip.com ? Any good paint source should be able to provide the right color based on the paint code (KAV). Paint process, paint batch, number of coats, weathering, clear coat application and other factors can affect the look of the finished product. Realize, even paint on metal vs. plastic from the factory will not match 100%. Plastic bumpers usually come out darker, and that is at least partially because they are not painted by the same machines at the same time. Unfortunately, "ball park" is as close as you can hope for, unless you opt for the body shop to strip and paint other body panels at the same time or blend into them. I wouldn't recommend that because factory finish is always going to be better because of the baking involved that can't be reproduced after assembly.

MattP725 · 11-06-2011, 10:57 PM

Take it to another shop IMO.

nismo 1234 · 11-07-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MattP725

Take it to another shop IMO.

Im going to the shop tomorrow to see how well they can match it. they are very reputable around vancouver bc, done many show cars, including a full r32 covert to r34. and a lot of custom paint projects.

i've used them for my cars for about 5 years, they are very skilled and detailed with their work especially when it comes to aftermarket parts. Hope it works out so i dont have to bring it to another shop. i miss my car

random question:
does the brand of the paint matter??

karotZ · 11-07-2011, 03:31 AM

I was on the same page as you OP. in my case now, my Z is my DD, i cant leave it in a shop. So right now I have the same kit plus rear being painted by UAM, and the only "for sure" option was to use a buttload of OEM KAV paint to get it as matching as possible w/o my car over there.

Not the best move but I know I'll be happy as hell. Try going to another dealership, see if you order some and have your shop try to blend the 40th color.

MattP725 · 11-07-2011, 02:23 PM

Don't go anything other than oem... heard by more than one person that painted parts for my car (rear bumper and custom injen intake) that the car takes a lot of blending and pearl to make it look right.

NickBaragona · 11-08-2011, 05:33 PM

Let me know how this turns out. I want to install the Amuse body kit, but am curious how well the 40th color can be matched.

xdeslitx · 11-08-2011, 05:39 PM

like i mentioned above
get paint from nissan
my front bumper has been repainted and its a great match

11-04-2011, 11:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
nismo 1234 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada BC Posts: 501 Drives: 10 370z M6 40th Rep Power: 16	40th paint color match problem hey guys, so i'm getting an amuse front and side skirt installed, but i got a call from the body shop saying that the color code "KAV" doesnt match properly with the body. he said if oem color is 100%, the color code KAV is about 85-90% matched. so they gotta bring in a guy to color match the color did any of you guys have this problem from the body shop? or did they get the wrong color code? thanks

11-05-2011, 03:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
djpathfinder A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 12,910 Drives: 2012 GT-R BE Rep Power: 733	Did you try drcolorchip.com ? Any good paint source should be able to provide the right color based on the paint code (KAV). Paint process, paint batch, number of coats, weathering, clear coat application and other factors can affect the look of the finished product. Realize, even paint on metal vs. plastic from the factory will not match 100%. Plastic bumpers usually come out darker, and that is at least partially because they are not painted by the same machines at the same time. Unfortunately, "ball park" is as close as you can hope for, unless you opt for the body shop to strip and paint other body panels at the same time or blend into them. I wouldn't recommend that because factory finish is always going to be better because of the baking involved that can't be reproduced after assembly. __________________ 2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black 2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD

11-06-2011, 12:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	Door handles Check out this thread the one guy has different formulas for a bunch of different parts. All of his stuff seems to have turned out nice... He might be able to recommend a different product and or have the exact match formula. __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

11-07-2011, 03:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
karotZ Track Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: not found Posts: 723 Drives: on empty tank of gas Rep Power: 15	I was on the same page as you OP. in my case now, my Z is my DD, i cant leave it in a shop. So right now I have the same kit plus rear being painted by UAM, and the only "for sure" option was to use a buttload of OEM KAV paint to get it as matching as possible w/o my car over there. Not the best move but I know I'll be happy as hell. Try going to another dealership, see if you order some and have your shop try to blend the 40th color. __________________ VERTEX \| SUIVAX \| AMUSE \| SSR \| SPARCO \| STILLEN \| FAST INTENTIONS x HKS \| HANKOOK \| NARDI \| NRG \| EVO-R \| ROBISPEC \| SPC

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xdeslitx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tu-jungle, CA Posts: 13,045 Drives: Yaris Rep Power: 63	like i mentioned above get paint from nissan my front bumper has been repainted and its a great match