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Old 03-22-2021, 09:27 PM   #6236 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by takemorepills View Post
Man 1/4, you seem really conflicted here! 1st you are gonna just do a panel swap (good luck with rear end and 1/4's). Then lament the "quality issues" of Nissan. But, obviously you do like this car enough to pay attention to chip shortages! (BTW, please don't think I am picking on you, I can tell you actually secretly like the car)

I predict the 300Z Twin Turbo (400Z) will sell more than the 370Z. I've been a Z guy for a long time, and I have tolerated Nissan QC issues for a LONG time also! I've owned my Titan forever and love it, have had Z31, Z32, S12 V6's, Maximas, QX4, Q60, etc. I quickly dismissed the 350Z as too "plasticky" with way too much Renault vibes going on, and I also considered the 370Z as somewhat ugly....and I was also resenting that Nissan wasn't building Twin Turbos anymore.
Well, here we are. I am DEFINITELY buying a 300Z Twin Turbo.
There isn't anything wrong with the Z34 chassis (to me, IMO). It was ugly and un-boosted, now it is way less ugly, Twin-Turbo'ed and called Z35 (probably).

I feel the price will be OK. The new TLX-S (another car I am mulling...my other Japanese car love was the Vigor and Legends) is going to be "low-50's" according to Acura. True, it'll be AWD and 4 door, it's more of a Q50 AWD 300HP killer. The upcoming IS500 (another car I really really like....reliability!) will be in the 60's supposedly.
If a 400+HP 300Z Twin Turbo is what we get at low $40's, for a low-volume, twin turbo, 2 seater heritage car, I am totally happy. I feel it is a fair price.
The power, if 400HP+, will be outstanding, the interior is WAYYYYY better than the 370Z (I do agree with you on the instrument cluster, I too would prefer real gauges over LCD) and the car is really very basic for a 2022 vehicle. It still has a hand brake, even with the auto. I think even the CTR has an EPB.
Nissan has made GREAT improvements in the interior quality lately, now that Ghosn is gone I think the cheapness at Nissan is gone too.

I will do whatever it takes to get one of these cars without ADM.
I don't think your picking on me at all. I'm honestly just being slightly harsh on the car. Mainly because I was hoping we would get something more than just a heavy refresh (although I knew it wouldn't happen with Nissans financial issues). I think for new people looking to get into this will be good if Nissans quality has really come up and there are enough dealerships not going bankrupt to take on inventory for people to get hands on time with. However for people with existing cars in some ways this is cool because our cars aren't obsolete. Instead we can buy a vr30 motor drop it in and get the same performance as the new Z or we can go full turbo and make a 1500+hp monster like SOHO is doing. I want the new Z to succeed but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about Nissans future especially with covid-19 and chip shortages. I'm definitely going to try and take a test drive in one for sure but I'd probably put that cash towards a full turbo system. The 370z still looks so amazing even after 10 years on the road and I hope the already slightly polarizing body style on the 400z makes just as much of an impression.
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