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1/4atatime · 12-11-2020, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

This is just thinking in absolute metrics. Not everyone thinks this way. I totally respect and appreciate the performance value of the C8, and I generally like the car. But, I feel no urge to go out and buy one. I have zero bad things to say about it (I have many bad things to say about a Mustang or Camaro, another possible Z competitor)
I am also sure a C8 and the new 300Z will be equally expensive to insure, both being 2-seaters, so that's another metric that would push the value ratio towards C8.
For me, I've had (2) Z31's, (2) V6 S12's, a Z32, a Q60, various Maximas and a Stanza and a Titan. All have treated me well, and all of my V6 coupes stand out in my mind as being favorable memories. I want another one, especially since we are going back to a retro-vibe 3.0TT V6 model, which was my favorite of all time.
Honestly, I HIGHLY doubt the new 300Z could outperform the BMW Supra 3.0TT, let alone the C8, obviously. BMW deserves a lot of respect for building cars that perform better than their specs suggest, and BMW has a lot of un-tapped room for improvement in the Supra, if the 300Z begins to nip too closely to the Supra, BMW can just turn up a few dials, maybe even offer a 6MT. I doubt Nissan will play such tricks with the VR, you will get what you get.
Nonetheless, I don't want a BMW either (although I'd take a C8 over a BMW in a quickness).

An enthusiast can take a new 300Z, significantly improve it with a tune, change out the exhaust in their driveway, modify it as they wish and not really break the bank. For us Nissan fans, it's an easy sell.

But that's the problem for Nissan and the same thing that Supra failed to understand. Many people aren't Fanboys or girls and only care about performance per dollar and reliability and the lots of people now don't wrench in their cars heck they can't even change the oil themselves. The average person buys a car as is maybe adds an exhaust and that's it. The Supra tanked because it's in the same price bracket as the C8 without the performance and the questionable reliability of the BMW engine. Toyota relied too much on nostalgia and the new Z will have this exact problem. Especially with the way most people's impressions of Nissan QC after all their transmission issues and general poor customer satisfaction compared to other car manufactures. Nissan absolutely needs to sell volume not just to us Nissan fans or they will go bankrupt.