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Old 10-20-2020, 10:10 PM   #6032 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime View Post
Everyone is focused on how good the motor is I could care less about that it's been in the q60/q50 for a while.now. I can drop one in my 370z right now if I wanted. I want to know how the new Z will handle. I test drove a q60 right after test driving a Z and I could never see myself in that car. That car feels like I'm driving a blob with wheels and a turbo. It has absolutely no character or driver feedback. If they throw on that adaptive suspension crap and drive by wire I'll never trade my 370z in. I would honestly rather drive a nisan versa than that car. At least when I'm taking a corner it will give me some driver feedback. I actually felt unsafe in the q60 I couldn't feel a hardly anything the car was doing. I'm pretty sure I would have taken a corner way too hard in it without knowing and ended up in a ditch somewhere.
My Q60 drives live a buttoned-down Buick. Really, it fits the type of car that it is. But, I agree it doesn't feel very lively from behind the wheel. Q60 is longer and weighs at least 650 pounds more than a comparable Z. And, AWD like my car has makes the Q60 even worse, unless it is raining/snowing. Then it is better than any Subaru! That's why I bought mine!

The new Q60 has EPS on some models, and regular hydraulic steering on others. I have heard nothing but bad things about the EPS. I have a VERY BAD FEELING that EPS is going to be on every new Z. Modern cars rely on EPS for lane keep assist and that crap, which I think the Z will come with. Let's hope that either Nissan makes good EPS, or they continue to have Z models that have hydraulic steering.

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This 100%. Something to note is that not only is the Z Proto a prototype, but it is a working, running, driving car. I'll link video below of the Z Proto starting up, running, driving a bit, and revving.

Based on up-close video reviews of Z Proto, the new Z appears to consist of more 370Z parts than new parts (this has been verified). The wheel base is the same (this has been verified). The underside of the car, exhaust, suspension, etc. are pretty much exactly the same as the 370Z (this has been verified). The only new changes coming to the Z, besides the new exterior body shape, will obviously be the engine which will be the TTV6 (most likely VR30DDTT). It will also have the same exact oil cooler from the Q60 Red Sport (this has been verified). That along with the turbo speed sensors basically confirms it will use the Red Sport Engine. The transmission will more than likely be the 7-speed automatic just as the Red Sport uses. It appears the Z Proto had some kind of air/electronic suspension of sorts so there may be an adaptable suspension. The chassis is more than likely the same considering the wheel base is the same and Nissan does not have the money to develop a new chassis. I also kinda doubt it'll be updated or upgraded much either because again, Nissan does not have the money. The interior is virtually the same besides the new infotainment, driver digital dashboard, and yellow contrast accents.

Considering all that info and the fact that Nissan execs themselves said multiple times the car will come to production almost exactly as it is, this means that most, if not all the parts seen on the Z Proto will be on the production car.

I think a lot of people don't realize that the new Z is mostly still 370Z besides the above mentioned. Nissan shouldn't need to increase the price of the new Z very much because of this. I will bet that the new Z will start around $35,000 for the base model, going up to $45,000 MAX for the Sport/Premium/whatever line. This would be a perfect and unbeatable price point for the new Z and it would likely outsell just about all other competition on the market in that price range.

If you want to see how the above info is verified watch these videos.
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My opinions:
The new Z and the refreshed Q60 will be available with Nissan's new 9AT. The 9AT has already replaced the 7AT in 2 existing Nissan models. The FM coupes, Armada and QX80 are next.

The RS engine has the turbine speed sensors, but the 300HP VR doesn't, so we'll see what gauge Nissan uses in the trio gauges for the 300HP models.

I don't think the headlights are completely finished. The Proto Z headlights had aftermarket white LED clearance lights used in place of high beams that were a different shade of white than the main beam. We have those exact same white LED clearance lights on our work trucks. Headlights are very expensive to make and likely weren't ready for the Proto unveil, I think the actual production units will be much different as far as the main and high beams go. I think the LED running light and actual shape are obviously finished.

The Z Proto appears to ditch the movable gauge cluster.


I'm overall excited about the new Z. I actually really like the current 370Z, Nissan using the VR motor, interior updates and classic styling cues really does it for me!

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