04-06-2020, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JLarson
I'm not ignoring key elements, but your basic argument is flawed. You're again saying that in this scenario, I'm giving something to someone. I'm not. I'm permitting someone to acquire property, unmolested, and protecting them during those transactions. I don't owe it to them, I don't have to do it, but I'm doing it anyway because I want to. At a certain point, I either no longer want to or have other motivation to not do so.
1) I'm not obligated.
True but has no bearing on the argument at hand
2) We had no agreement that I'd protect you, I just did it.
Fair enough. But if you then boast about what you do provide, that makes you a děck. This is what God did to Satan
3) I am aware that harm is going to befall you, in the way that harm befalls anyone who is a part of this life. That's a part of life.
That's a cop-out excuse if I've ever heard one. Satan is right there. He's the bully in my argument above - you know he's going to do something right then and there when you remove your protection. If the story didn't involve God and Satan having an argument over Job then I agree with the 'that's part of life' statement.
(btw, I argue the point because I find it interesting to hear other people's perspectives. Job is always a fascinating topic.)
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Same here
Someone who isn't obligated to give, yet does anyway, and then takes away their gift for no reason other than to prove a point to someone else is a děck. No one yet has convinced me otherwise.
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