I had them on my first car, a 2004 Mini Cooper S. Loved them, my buddy who had a 2005 also got them. they were soooooo grippy. We never tracked the cars but honestly we pushed them hard a few times and the tires never failed us. The brakes would fail before the tires would that's for sure. one time my buddy braked super late into a turn and right before going off he had such good grip he just made the turn. loved those tires to bits. I think I will get them again for the Z.
