Thread: 2019 Veloster N
View Single Post
Old 03-01-2019, 04:33 PM   #46 (permalink)
ZCanadian
A True Z Fanatic
 
ZCanadian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,061
Drives: 2013 370Z
Rep Power: 60273
ZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond reputeZCanadian has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
Who said that statement of yours? As far as I know its you..not me...
Well, you said that making money was a "bad business model"..."for an enthusiast. I'll agree with the last bit, but the enthusiast market isn't particularly profitable. Catering to money-losing segments exclusively is not a sound business model. Making a better Z will never sell more Altimas or Pathfinders! Touting the performance of the 911's will sell more Macans, which finances better 911's.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
Porsche is a SUV company? Hmm..
..."Sales growth was driven mainly by the success of Porsche’s SUV models. For yet another year the most sold Porsche globally was the Macan with 86,031 vehicles followed closely by the Cayenne with 71,458 deliveries. Next is the Panamera which recorded the strongest growth year-over-year of 38 percent with 38,443 sales. Last but not least, the 911 also recorded double-digit rise - 35,573 sales or 10 percent more than 2017." They left out the Cayman/Boxter twins, which by the math (they quote a total) were 24,750 units.
SOURCE: https://www.motor1.com/news/300557/p...g-models-2018/
And
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...rsionid=876995

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
Where you born in the 80’s? Then I understand you.
Nope, I was ancient already then...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
The reason why Nissan dropped the Z project is because the sports car market are for select few or nitch market there is no money into it.

Thus 9 going 10 years no new Z!

Toyota would not even spend millions of dollars to properly R&D a new supra legendary engine because its not worth the investment and returns is very little or none.

What Im saying..the two brands I mentioned the Corvette and Porsche 911 even these cars are not the revenue flagship of the company they still infuse money through thier racing program to keep the small select race car enthusiasts alive.
Chevy's race program is in the Camaro. The Vette is secondary, and benefits from some shared bits. But it is the Vette that is seen as their premier sports offering.

As for Nissan, three letters for you. GTR. The 370Z is neither a halo car or sport car flagship for Nissan. The Z car heritage lost its cachet two generations ago. Now, it's just another mature market car that still rakes in enough cash for them not to shut the production line down. It fills a spot in the Toyota 86 segment. Just like there is a NISMO Juke, it is prostituting a badge for profit. And the GTR isn't what it once was, either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
Thus I for one a company that loves a sports car enthusiast and supports racing is a plus in my record books.
A company with racing program that is passionate with racing they dont talk about profits they are more concerned about the prestige of winning.

Thats all...has nothing to do with your Porsche SUV lol. If you have one.
Then buy and Alfa Romeo! ;-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
...
Who know they might follow Toyota to design a new car and get an engine from Renult!


Yayks!! A french bulldog crossed with a sushi salmon!
Are you referring to the Nissan / Renault alliance there? LOL

Nissan, if they continue to work so closely with Renault and Mitsubishi, will almost certainly start sharing platforms and drive train components.

Last edited by ZCanadian; 03-01-2019 at 04:36 PM.
ZCanadian is offline   Reply With Quote