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Originally Posted by markesc
This is exactly what I'm buying eventually, but my heart is set on a Black ZL-1 (with a clear bra on the entire car).
Glad you skipped the Q50-60 game, to me those just seem like $20k in depreciation in 18 months... no thanks! I think nissan is aware that the transmission plus the turbo is a liability, so they purposefully detuned the shifts to save clutch packs
Nice Tire Choice! Absolutely no substitute to the PSS / PS4's, first car tire I've owned that actually has impressed me!
How is the paint "quality" compared to Nissan? Orange peel? I do wish we had the option to simply pay extra to own vehicles without orange peel + a thicker paint. It should be a simple check box on every vehicle when ordering. Gimme showcar paint for an extra $3k.
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Thankfully no orange peel on my car. When I test drove the Giulia I was shocked to see massive orange peel on a Masreati gran turismo. Orange peel on a $125,000 car. This is why they don't sell,among other things .
I'm at 11,600 miles. Have the 1le suspension in a box. Saving for custom 305/325 wheels. Will go NA mods for a target for a target 500RWHP.
As of now I can honestly say this car is amazing. There's a learning curve to the width and visibility. But I find the visibility just as bad as a Z in the 6th gen. Which isn't that bad. Width is The bigger challenge. The 5th gen was more awkward to drive.
Reviewers talk about the camaro v6 is the better handler as it is not front heavy. But I don't feel the v8 front heavy at all. The car rotates in the corners properly and control is second to none. Honestly, this car once you acclimate yourself to the dimensions, becomes more capable than a Z by far. I'm sure the v6 feels better balanced though. 3450 vs 3700lbs.
The advantage of a Z is the 2nd you get in it. It's instantly confidence inspiring like a Porsche would be. Not to mention it's uber driver focused cockpit. The Z just feels right. In the long run, This camaro ends up being more rewarding if you track etc... cuz it takes months before you really master driving it. It's like taming a wild horse, then riding It like she's supposed to... It took me 8 months to take corners and exceed at rates of speed that I take in a Z. The Z will make you a Pro fast. It's amazing... the camaro, you have to force yourself to be that good. It will intimidate you in certain instances.
With various modes, like track, competitive, and all traction off, you will be driving at different skill levels over a long period of time.
The transmission in full throttle is DCT fast. But slows down shifts tremendously in normal driving. In ambient weather the torque will toss you around your seat. Thinking about ZL1 seats but I really wanna keep the ventilators. They're amazing.
Getting to 150mph is effortless.... In the Z you'd probably hit 125 in the same amount of time. You definitely feel German like handling as well. It's not an exaggeration. But if you're not an all out professional driver. It will take some time to get everything out of it. The SS with MRC is mind bogglingly amazing. I'm perplexed. I drive it and wonder... How did Chevy do it? It's nearly a marvel of engineering. Steering tuning is better than the early rendition of the corvette. Chevy somehow tuned feedback right into the Chevy steering wheel. So it's giving you the feedback through the tires you need. But still more muted than a Z. The Z steering won't be outdone in feedback. I keep my steering in track mode. Many reviewers claim track mode is way too heavy n they choose sport. In the end... I feel the best handling comes out of the track mode steering. Lift weights if it's too heavy? Lol.
Had a track day recently and realized as amazing as the MRC suspension is. As precise as you will hit the apex's. There's a movement in mid corner that needs to go. It's hard to explain it but it feels unsettling though the car is doing what it's supposed to. I'm 99.9% sure that the 1le suspension and tires will eradicate that feeling and make me discover more flaws I don't notice.
There's nothing like a small powerful great handling sub3500lb 2 seater. Even better sub 3000lb.
But the camaro gives you an unexpected driving experience. You're driving totally close the 6 figure arena. The only car that's been able to show me out is a GTR. I wonder what would happen if I had a ZL1? The GTR was faster, but didn't quite shake me either. I remained a few car length behind but he didn't disappear. I think my goal of 500RWHP will be a nice happy median between my car now and a ZL1.
Camaro and corvette. They're kings right now in their price ranges. Though interior quality needs improvement. I think $47,000 is a bargain if you ignore the civilian demands and focus on the enthusiasts desires. Even still The camaro interior is acceptable. You features surpassing many entry level luxury products. So it's no slouch there... The camaro behind the wheel keeps getting better. And there's always something new in how it rewards you.
The more I drive it. The more I think of upgrading to a grand sport. I'm not sure how long muscle will remain this legendary? I hope it keeps getting better. It's about time!!!!