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Old 05-15-2018, 10:40 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ZCanadian View Post
Yup, I think that attitude is pretty clear in Nissan’s business practices.
Who’s to say they are wrong? I’ve been jerked around by them (corporate and dealerships - plural) for decades, and still own two. Shame on me!

Truth is, they (Nissans) are a (pretty) good product, at a decent price. The difference in your analogy, though, is that you have a very limited number of residential units. Nissan does not sell 100% of its manufacturing capacity. OTOH, if they have to drop pricing to to that, it might not be worth the effort.

A rising tide floats all boats. When the Hyundai’s and Kias of the world come up with well priced and well built, good driving cars, every manyfacturer needs to up their game just that much more. Wait another 30 years, until the Chinese makers are there!!!

Exactly.... the true enthusiast isn't riding on sales of a Maxima, Altima Rogue... in my eyes they're the same as a Sorrento or Camry. Accord or whatever mundane utilitarian crap that's out there. None of the top 10 brands have anything to worry about... ever. When it comes to cars like that, price to features is what matters. And with this new market. ALMOST NO CARS have good resale... All the residual value have gone to trucks and crossover. The only sports cars with good resale are Porsche. And the only NON crossover cars are Lexus Audi Toyota. All very bland looking vehicles with dramatically awful bumpers.

RWD Performance coupes $50,000 and under.
370z
Camaro
Mustang
BMW 2 series
Infiniti Q60
Lexus Rc

Of these choices... Only the first 3 feel special behind the wheel.


RWD Performance sedans under 50,000.
Alfa Romeo Giulia.
Infiniti Q50
Kia Stinger
BMW 3 series
Jaguar xe

Imho... Only the Giulia drives above the other 4. The other 4 drive neck and neck. Our choices are way smaller than 20+ years ago And instead of cars trying to stand out in the crowd. They are trying to be a spin off of there competitor. That's true of every car brand. Not just Hyundai. . I remember when Nissan had like 5 or 6 performance oriented cars that all had individual characteristics. Mazda was like that too. The fun in cars are DYING. So we are gonna bash the last of the pioneers for the sports car enthusiast???? Really? Is that what being an enthusiast has become in this shytty market.

We bash the guy doing something n defend the guy destroying the market which we love?

I dunno man. .
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