2010 370z NISMO for sale

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^$10,001

onzedge

This thread is an embarassment and an affront to the forum. I agree that the OP could have been more diplomatic and informed, but geez.

It is easy to rail against someone anonymously -- perhaps too easy. Many posts are written by those who have described themselves as "true Z" people and such. True Z people don't lambaste their comprades -- they offer help and guidance.

I wonder how many of those who were quick to point out that the guy had no balls, was pw'ed,, whatever else came to them, have wives or girlfriends? I mean women whose intelligence is at least twice that of a cornflake. I admire the man for owning up to his reality -- maybe they can't afford insurance, maybe they just had a kid or have medical expenses. No one knows, but it sure is fun to poke fun at him, isn't it?

I have been in the Z community for more than 30 years and own/owned more than a dozen Z's. True Z people aren't the guys whose only experience is with 300's, 350's, 370's. True Z guys have been through thick and thin with their (and other people's) cars. They act as if they belong to a brotherhood and they help each other, they broaden each other's knowledge. It is a sad statement for our forum, and society at large, that so many take the low road.

Makes me ashamed to be associated with those who get their kicks by putting other people down. I could go on, but my license does not allow me to practice therapy for free.

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Ole Rusty

Very well put, OnZedge. The anonymity of the internet disgusts me. Most would simply congratulate the OP to his face, but here, where they can hide, they flame him for being an adult who puts his family first. How ridiculous...

For all those interested (not many, I'm sure). Look at most Mustang sites, their posters are so immature and idiotic that no adult visits them any longer. The websites have diminished the quality of a decent car to the point that people who like to read and share their experiences go other places. I also own a 70 Chevelle and the adults at those sites are truly adults who make it a wonderful location to share lessons and stories.

If you truly think that the 370Z is the most fantastic car ever then prove it by being an adult who can keep stupid comments to yourself and support those around you.

Some of you are demanding proof for something that you have no intent to purchase. If you're gonna buy the car, then IM the OP and get proof. If you're gonna complain about his wife, then maybe you should look within your own life for what you must be missing.

dang370z

I guess that is for me... and yes I never applied for anything I didn't want or need. Also you can be realistic about it... he is on a Z forum asking for 37k when people are getting one off the lot for the same price and color of choice..

Here my tip to him.. if you stick with that price you have a better chance of selling it locally or you can try to lower it and have a better chance here. You have to realize it is now a used car regardless of the miles on the odo

Jeffblue

this doesn't have as much to do with us being immature etc as it does have to do with how the OP has handled the situation.

take this for example, shadow2x, who many of you have probably read, had his wheels almost stolen twice, is quite young. he came on here and started this thread:Graduation Z The kneejerk response of many members here to young Z owners who get the car as a gift is to rag on them and be like 'AH YOU DONT DESERVE THIS BLA BLA BLAH' but he showed that he was a nice, appreciative guy. He didn't come on being like 'hey yall bitches, i gotz a Z for free yall had to pay for it suck it!' he made it clear he appreciated what he had, and despite the fact that he was young and got the car as a gift, EVERYONE here treated him with respect.

This guy on the other hand, did not handle this situation properly. If you don't want to have forum members criticize your personal life, don't bring it into the situation. On multiple occasions you mentioned your wife and how she is making you sell the car. You are only inviting criticism and berratement about your situation when you make posts that imply your wife is the devil woman who yells at potential buyers if they come up short of your asking price. Honestly, from the quote above, i pictured the flames of hell in the background, and your wife wielding a pitch fork. In all honesty, your wife is probably a really nice, well intentioned, realistic woman, who knows that this sports car isn't right for your family. But you're the one who brought her into this and made her sound so terrible, not us.

to be quite honest, a lot of the criticism does come from jealousy from most members. People are jealous that you won this car, that we all either PAID for, or want really badly, and you can't/don't want to keep it. FINE, no one is criticizing that fact. But by coming on here and asking TOP dollar for your FREE car, and portraying your wife as a devil woman, you attract only criticism, and no reasonable offers for your car.

honestly, it really seems like this
Guy1: Damn! my wife is being so unreasonable
guy2: its ok man, she's probably well intentioned
guy1: no man, she's being really a b1tch!
guy2: oh... sounds like she is being a b!tch then
Guy1: WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY WIFE!?

bottom line. don't come onto an enthusiast forum, asking top dollar for a car you won for free. if you want top dollar, don't say you won the car for free. Also, don't criticize and imply bad things about people in your personal life, on a public forum, and then be pissed if other people criticize them too.

fullmonty

Yep IBTL

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HKYStormFront

carmax maybe?

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HKYStormFront

+1mil jeffblue, attitude is everything

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Robert_Nash

Is there childishness going on here? Yeah...but if it's on one side it's on both and it's the OP, his attitude and the way he has presented himself that is the real problem.

I can't speak for everyone but no, I don't enter contests if I have no desire to win what is being offered. I also don't know that the OP did that but if he did them double-shame on him.

I think most of us here can understand that situations change...that he may have entered the contest with the best of intentions and as desirous of the NISMO ans any of us here would be and that maybe after some thought and talking with his wife they decided that keeping the car wasn't the smart thing for him/his family to do. IF that's what happened and if had he actually presented himself and the situation that way I suspect most people would have been much more forgiving. However, that isn't what he did.

If you look at his very first post, it's pretty obvious that he joined 370Z.com only to announce to us all that he won the car...talked about how happy and excited he as to have won and would be in Nashville at ZCON to pick it up...so far so good but then within the span of few days, claimed his wife wouldn't let him keep it because it wasn't a family car and made vague references to need the money for business, etc., etc.

Now just think for a minute...what kind of people generally frequent a site like this? I don't know the actual demographics but I'd be willing to bet real money that most of the folks here are younger males (early to maybe late 20s), many of which probably aren't married, who generally aren't the kind of guys who feel that a wife, if they have one, should have that much control in a marriage that she just gets to decide what kind of car the husband can or can't have (remember, there was no presentation that this had been a mutually, rationally discussed issue and decision) and even if they did think the wife should have that much control wouldn't be stupid enough to say so in a forum dripping with testosterone.

This IS, after all, a forum for 370Z aficionados - I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders why he even came back to the forum once it was decided that the car had to go...what kind of reception did this guy really expect? And what gives him the right to get snooty because we don't jump on his offer to sell his free NISMO?

Let's also not forget that he didn't even follow the posting rules to post his car for sale (not to mention the wholly unreasonable price he is asking once he gout around to actually stating a price).

It seems the only reason he is even here now is because he apparently thinks that "Z" guys are going to pay his unreasonable asking price for his NISMO...if he wants (or his wife demands) that he unload the car then he needs to put the car on eBay or sell it to a dealer and be happy with his windfall...not berate us because we aren't falling all over ourselves to buy his car.

Bottom line is, he could have avoided ALL OF THE anger and angst had he just approached the forum differently.

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Robert_Nash

I can’t speak for anyone else here but many, many people here (like the 300 or so I’ve help buy a 370 or other new Nissan) and in the larger Z community know who I am and if anyone else wants to know, all they have to do is ask. I also wonder; if you two dislike the anonymity of the internet that much perhaps; are you going to let everyone know who you are???

I am not bashful about speaking my mind or letting people know who is doing the speaking just as I was with my criticism of certain deficiencies at ZCON 2010.

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Jeffblue

fullmonty

Robert Nash is the one guy who just happens to appear at just the right time and with his posts confuses idiots with his well put together thoughts and repeats everything everyone else alreardy said except without all the B.S. and gets everyone to chill. +1

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Ole Rusty

That wasn't for you in particular, it was just my general statement that people get so upset about things that they themselves are guilty of. Not saying that you or anybody else has done that, but it disturbs me when people can't just say 'congrats, hope you find a buyer'. There were several that did just that and I applaud them for that. There were also a lot who seem to want to demonize him for being lucky enough to win, but not lucky enough to want to keep it. I was upset to see that the winner was going to sell it, too. I even complained about it to my wife, but I'm not going to bad mouth the guy for keeping a happy home.

The OP could have approached this much differently, but I think that too many people got their feelings hurt because they weren't the winners. I doubt there was any way he could have salvaged his comments after saying that he won it and will sell it.

As for the anonymity comment. Robert, why would you, OF ALL PEOPLE, take offense to that? You are one of the few who don't do that. I applaud you for having your name on here and have heard good things about you (I'm in the vicinity). But I do stick by my comment. People hide behind screen names and say things without any care for how it sounds BECAUSE they don't have to face that person. It's childish to say that you f@#$ing hate a guy (though I'm sure the comment was more playful than true) because he won. You asked if I'd put my real name up here. No, but I don't say things here that I wouldn't say if I were standing before someone either. Now, if anybody would like to IM me, I'd be happy to talk on the phone or in person, but I'm not going me to volunteer that information for the world.

Having said all of that, I will apologize for calling people names and saying that people were being childish. It just frustrates me to see people call the guy a liar and demand proof for something they aren't really interested in buying. His story won't help him get a dime more from the people on this site. In fact, I would bet that there are potential buyers who looked at the story and walked away immediately. If the OP was selling wheels or stereos, I could understand the need for proof. But, in the day of CARFAX, there is no way that he could get past the loan stage on a stolen car. Maybe I'm naive, but I just didn't see the need to harass the guy for his story. The price-yes. But the story-cut him some slack.

Lastly, the OP didn't really demonize his wife. He merely stated that she said no. I've been married longer than some here have been alive and I can tell you that the secret to a lasting marriage is compromise. My wife has a say in my car affliction, just as I have a say in her shoe dependancy. If someone doesn't understand that, then they don't understand what a healthy relationship requires. Nobody here knows the full story of the OP's home life. Maybe they're dead broke and $500 more means the difference between getting a reliable van for his wife to cart their six sickly children to school. Maybe he volunteers all his time to shuttle the poor and destitute to the homeless shelters and just can't do that in a Z. Maybe he's just a schmuck that wants too much for a free car. Nobody truly knows and, unless you're a potential buyer, there's no reason to do anything but congratulate him and move on.

In all honesty, I don't think the OP has any true idea of what the Z is worth. I believe that he looked at the MSRP and looked up the value on the net and then posted what he thought he could get out of it. If that is the truth, then the OP would be best suited to just say that and then ask what everybody here thinks he should ask. If he does that, I would say that the most mature thing for people to do would be to give him a true, no BS, answer that doesn't take into consideration what he paid/didn't pay for it and only considers what a 2010 fully-loaded 370Z Nismo with xxx miles is worth.

I hope that this drama ends soon. I hate having a webfight that I can't turn away from. I, again, apologize for calling everybody childish, but this is somewhat ridiculous treatment and I'm sure it doesn't make the OP want to keep his beautiful car.

Love,
Mike

NIZMOZ

The problem here which you seem to be missing is this guy acts like he won the car from ZCON but in reality the CAR WAS STILL THERE. We don't believe the guy won it, and is pulling our chain since he can't provide any proof.

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Ole Rusty

You may be right and I may be crazy. But I don't see what it would do for him to lie. Maybe I'm just being naive about the whole thing, I just can't see his motive here. If he is lying, I'll be the first to canvas Florida looking for him. I just can't see the motive.

I've been wrong before and I know I'll be wrong again.

OP, here's your chance. Step in and explain.

And, on that note, can any of you tell the OP what range he should be expecting? I've heard a lot of talk that he's being ridiculous, but anybody have any true advice for him?