Originally Posted by dalparadise

I seriously doubt Nissan would ever put out $1800 factory cash on Zs. That's what it would take to get one $1800 back of invoice. $500 in February wouldn't surprise me on remaining '09s, and that would be a great deal.

At $1800 off without any money in the deal from Nissan, a dealer would be giving up nearly his entire holdback, I'd think. They will not do it. Not only would they be losing potential profit on the deal, they'd essentially be putting their own money, in the form of their quarterly reimbursement for holdback, into the deal. That's how you close the doors of a dealership.

I suspect the dealer offering $1800 back of invoice is ready to rape you on your trade, financing rate, extended warranty or something else.