Originally Posted by MaysEffect

I already made my point on the first page, so i still don't think you understand what i said.

Originally Posted by MaysEffect

The Z no matter what variant is a modders car, depending on your level of "need" for comfort ultimately is the question. The sport is unquestionably more comfortable imo over longer drives and in traffic. But if you want comfort get a G. The Z will require modifications no matter what. 8k in your pocket will go a long way in making a better driving experience. Whether or not you want to go down that rabbit hole is dependent on how hard you plan on driving. The Nismo up to about 7 or 8 tenths driving pace works significantly better without having to worry about modifications. The Sport shows its colors anywhere close to aggressive driving with increased body roll, increased understeer and slower transitional response.

The Nismo can handle stickier tires better on the stock suspension. So at the very minimum all you'd want is a set of tires capable of handling additional abuse. Stepping up in size is slightly more advantageous than outright racing tires in the same size. Something that can handle wet and dry without being horrible in one or the other. Like the new contisport or ps4 in a plus size.

Originally Posted by MaysEffect

This is very much dependent on tires and tire size. The Nismo suspension in most cases will and can handle stickier tires better. For normal tires it may actually make it feel worse like you said.

Originally Posted by MaysEffect

I'll have to disagree* earnestly. The PSS are not even remotely the same as cup 2's or even extreme tires for that matter. They lack the tread block rigidity and overall sidewall support as tires of race compounds. They may be good, but they are not comparable to Cup 2's or something in the Extreme category such as the ZII's, BF rivals or RE71's.

They are not race grade tires. Extremes can handle more than 10k miles on and off the track certainly with a uprated sizes. I was able to get over 15k miles on my RS3's on my heavier G37 and over 20k miles on my Direzza ZIIs on my VW R32, and that was even on a undersized tire for the weight of the car and significant abuse on and off the track. Both of these tires can out handle PSS's as well as last just as long with better heat control.

I don't know what size tire you use, but i assure you they do not stack up to the latest offerings in the extreme class of tires. And yes, i have used the PSS on my car before. On the R32, and the ZII's and BF rivals out handled them immensely.

Originally Posted by MaysEffect

I think this is the confusion. The GT4 uses cup2 tires, atleast here where i live. If the GT4 where you live comes with PSS, then i feel sorry for whoever buys it there lol. So it sounded like you were saying the pss tires is as good as the cup2 tires. And the other part about them being "mid level" race grade tires, which they are not, for whatever that means. They are very good street tires.

My original point was about how the nismo suspension can handle tires with higher traction limits. Such as an extreme or competition tires.

Originally Posted by MaysEffect

As for the comparison, nothing about the Nismo's tire package is better than the sport. They both use a 245 front, and this size actually suites the 9 inch wheel on the sport better, a 9.5 should have a 255 at minimum. The rear nismo is only a size bigger at 285 vs 275. Not a big difference at all. It's also proven the Bridgestone is better than the Yokahama, thus the reason almost every car company has ditched the advan for the Bridgestone Re050A or S001. The skidpad tests alone indicated the Yokahama's are nothing to brag about. The advan sport was replaced 3 times over since 2008. Where as the Re050A was only updated once. So for however terrible they are, the advan is worse, giving the Nismo very little performance advantage, if any. The current Nismo uses the S001, which is still categorically not the best in-class, but much improved compared to the old, worst in-class advan sport. For a standard summer tire setup, i'd agree the stock sport suspension will work the tires better. But the stiffer nismo suspension will yield a more stable balance with larger high grip tires.