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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370
My 94 Mazda rx7 tt is what's missing today.
The Mitsubishi eclipse gsx is what's missing today.
The Porsche 944 turbo is what's missing today.
Balanced vehicles that felt fast. < all under 300hp
I will trade it at a later time for a nismo (why?). The Evita (what?) almost had me. But average modded elantra's kill it at the track (useless argument). Unacceptable @ 100k (why?). Even if it's only straight line I can put a cheap chinese ebay turbo on a old rusty civic and some drag radials and smoke a whole bunch of $100k cars.
PS. The racecar rant was od. My list only was comparative to a 20year old measurement. But I feel it was the best measurement ever created for a sports enthusiast.
I think I made clear that there were different types of PERFORMANCE cars here. >not really
So what was your point with that?
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You made it clear what can be defined of a true sports car - and you followed up by listing a whole bunch of cars that do not fit in your specifications or even qualify as a sports car categorically. Again what do you consider "worth the price tag"??? Is 600hp not worth 65k+ dollars? Can any of the cars you just listed make 600hp reliably? I doubt it...unless you dump massive amounts of cash. Can any of those cars you listed out handle your current Z with a good set of tires? I highly doubt it. And the Z is only worth about 35k at max.
Race cars today are the bench mark you are trying to compare things too. Race cars of era's before are what you are trying to compare things too. You stated in your last post you were disappointed and unsatisfied by the offerings on the market and made up a potential price range you feel a car manufacturer should make your hypothetical car in. fact is ALL the manufactures you listed provide a car in that range with an engine capable of producing the power you want and potentially the weight you want. You haven't stated exactly what you are looking for other than the fact you are happy with the Z and unhappy with everything else. Are you saying there isn't a car more expensive worth the cost difference?
Even still based on the original argument, the Z isn't an outright sports car. Its a sports touring car. The 944 turbo is a sports touring car and rx7 and GSX are tuner cars. So you've never really got a "sports car". My point about the race cars was clearly this, sports cars are based closely off of Race cars. And race cars of today are EXPENSIVE, meaning a true SPORTS car is EXPENSIVE. These are your Mclarens mp4's, Audi R8's and GT3's. In which they are lightning fast and relatively light weight.
The fact is there are a whole lot a of cars that will beat and outperform all the cars you just listed. You being unsatisfied with them doesn't really say much. What do you actually want? You also comparing stock cars vs heavily modified ones is also apples an oranges.
Nothing really touches a 4c? really? The 4c is over 5 seconds slower than a z/28 around Laguna Seca and will lose a drag race too. < around the same price now.