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Originally Posted by Jordo!
....I can only assume you are an advocate against "casual enthusiasts" even bothering to modify OEM (suspension) set-ups unless they are experts (we'll leave the magic and mystery of engine tuning, tire selection, brakes, etc etc out of it).
Perhaps you could post a lengthy thread on what the upper and lower boundaries for settings are, with data, and offer recommendations. - I have intentions to do this soon
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My original point was never fore or against the idea of the end user having to be experts in order to make changes. Just being properly informed and knowledgeable to limit the chances of disappointments and complaints if things are not as intended. Companies have both ruined and been ruined by vague information the public received and took as face value. That was my initial point. OP asked for almost specific clarification years ago, yet, over this time, we had sponsors and installers making vaguely inaccurate statements on what they should do oppose to what actually makes a difference between one design vs another. Some of the best information came from users that had to do the R&D themselves.
My stated disagreements and disappointments were over the fact some companies and sponsors were being misleading, as if they assumed "you have know idea what to do, so why even bother trying to find out, just buy ____ if you do ____". Ultimately that is what i believe is the problem. The user can not properly find or get the right information if the designer/definer does not publish the right information. This is blind copying, partly on behalf of the designer, and not the fault of the user. We all have the right to follow and copy whatever we choose, but an independent user has no obligation to teach you or define the proper recommendations.
Even in recent car forum history, their are users still jumping through fences dealing with unidentifiable flaws in aftermarket products they buy. I don't believe this is their fault. It is the fault of the seller for not noting all the procedures, changes and recommended steps to make the modification as seamless as possible.
Sometimes the best products can be viewed and warned as horrible simply because the company failed to list basic information on proper use. Where as some cases an average run of the mill product can be reviewed as excellent simply because the instructions, recommended changes and features were clearly noted for the user to use properly. That doesn't make the user an expert, it makes them well informed. You said it perfectly the first time about the biggest obstacle is getting interpret-able data.