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Old 03-08-2017, 09:00 PM   #72 (permalink)
nis350
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the car is completely stock and it is an 09 g37s with 7AT.

you're correct about running higher octane (race fuel). it only masks the potential issues and certainly impractical.

It's pita because it is intermittent and can't be reproduce at will. Some of the explanations made sense about engine is tuned for 93 octane and with higher mileage, perhaps it is near the borderline with the highest available 91 octane fuel here in socal.

Are you saying that the ecu should adjust for the lean condition eventually? We have this intermittent ping issue for a long time now.

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Originally Posted by RadioFlyer View Post
Interesting - I'm basing my post on first hand experience with an 08 G37, is the ECU different on the Z? If it's det/preignition, increasing octane isn't the fix, it just let's you know that it's a combustion problem. What happens if the octane booster stops the pinging? It will only stop it until the tank is empty again. And unless the OP wants to run octane booster at every tank, it'll come back on the next tank. ...Unless the ECU has a way of adjusting for it. And the ECU isn't going to adjust for it unless it sees the problem, which it won't if you're running octane booster.

Between STFT, and LTFT, the ECU has a VERY wide range of compensation. So first it adjusts the STFT, and then if it keeps riding the same compensation when the same conditions are present, then it starts turning that into LTFT. And as far as ECU compensation, my understanding is that it pulls timing based on the knock sensor (so knock pulls timing, while closed loop adjusts fuel based on it targeting stoich). The conditions described by the OP - light throttle, idle, light load, all point to closed loop operation. So the ECU would be adjusting fuel if it's lean. At least that's what I've seen.
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