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Originally Posted by Zbrah
Legally they are not but morally they are selling parts that belongs to the guys in the group buy. Those guys are members of this community. We are all here to support one another if some people have forgotten that. Gamma is banned from here and myg37 for a reason. I still stand by my comment.
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I understand the morality behind them selling kits that are already mostly paid for by members of the group buy, but everyone has to also understand how business works. If a company like GTM goes under and another investor company like GAMMA comes along and picks up whatever product there actually was and then looks at the whole list of people that Sam screwed over, They have to charge something on the kits, otherwise they are giving out free kits to people that bought product that was never produced in the first place, and now are giving out their product in replacement of Sam's idiocy. (remember knowing Sam I guarantee he didn't have much product to sell in that time for the group buy, honestly that whole group buy was a scam besides the couple kits that have gone out because some one has bled it out of Sam)
That would bankrupt the company faster than Sam went bankrupt. They are immorally taking the product but its not like they are not offering it. In theory yes it would be great for every single person from the group buy gets their kit with a bow on it at their front door, BUT in reality it doesn't work that way in a scam run by a different company. Yes these people in the group buy put their hard earned money into the product and should received their product from GTM, that's why if you have a problem with the morality of the situation its best to get your product from the person who owes it to you (Sam), either that or a refund through the Lawsuit. I'm not at all disagreeing with everyone getting their money or parts, but you can't expect the new company that just invested in the parts to just hand those out .
Wouldn't it be much easier to pay 2k more than to sit in a line of lawsuits against Sam?; hoping he doesn't declare bankruptcy and then everyone in the group buy is screwed
I know this is easier said than done, and understand that supporting one another as a community is why we are all here and I do support that
I am just a realist and look at things straight on. I know the 2k isn't fair to the people that already "paid in full" but remember your "paid in full" was part of a group order at a discounted price by GTM. not Gamma Motors.
The fact of wanting another 2k is the price to actually have a kit paid in full. From my knowledge a full TT kit by itself at a retail value with no add-ons is about 10k. I remember from the other thread I saw a lot of I paid 7k, 8k, 8.5k down on the kit. Well technically from a single kit stand point vrs a group buy (that gamma motors did not authorize) the avg 2k is about right on the amount owed on the kits.
if you are not to sure about ordering from GAMMA motors than wait for a shop to order the kit for you and get it and then pay your shop once they get it.
Work a deal with Gamma Motors or Get in line in the lawsuits