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Originally Posted by Pharmacist
so much nonsene in your post. first of all, a stock mustang would NEVER defeat a 370z on a track actually oriented towards handling and cornering ability.
there you go again with the typical american mentality. you make it seem like a car is no more than the sum of its horsepower. 400 hp big deal. you can get a turbo 4 banger evo X with minimal mods to make that much power, of course it also has excellent handling to go with it.
yeah, i guess all those other automakers that abandoned solid axles in favor of irs were all motivated by ignorance and elitism 
and weight-wise, the 370z may not be light but it's not very heavy either compared to other cars of similar size. heck the aston one 77 with all its fancy carbon fibre body i think is only 100 lbs less than the z.
yeah, ford is able to sell lots of mustangs, so what? dodge also made a successful selling car out of the caravan, and toyota sells tens of thousands of corollas. what's your point? Meanwhile, mclaren had a tough time selling the f1. what is your point?
and yeah, the majority of ferrari and lambo owners never track their cars and only drive them on the street to show off. so what? should ferrari cut costs by downgrading the 458 italia back to solid axle, front engine, 5 sp manual, sliding one piston calipers, etc.....
and what do my track credentials have any relevance? this is a topic about the mustang, not my driving abilities. focus on topic |
You underestimate the ability for a car that has a LOT of power to be able to pick up a lot of time on long straights, and you also underestimate the abilities of competent drivers to do what you perceive as unimaginable with a car. Case in point, Sabine at the Nurburgring, racing that silly delivery truck at times that'd blow your mind. I'd link the Youtube video, but sadly, Im at work.
You're misunderstanding my common sense with your so-called American mentality. I can understand and accept the fact that a car with enough power but less handling can POTENTIALLY beat a car on a track that has less power but better handling. I can ALSO accept the fact that spec Miatas with **** for power can smoke higher powered cars on a track. Many times, it just depends on the driver. And that is the part of the equation you are forgetting here. Furthermore, you're also forgetting the fact that the vast majority of people who purchase either of these cars has any track experience, and your amazing handling means precisely squat on the roads for the most part, minus zipping and zooming through traffic, and doing other illegal maneuvers.
Im not stating that anyone should cut costs or whatever, Im merely stating that Ford has found a method that works for them in building and selling the Mustang. To many, its a very attractive car, and reasonably priced at that. It has plenty of power for stoplight-to-stoplight racing, and given the right sticky rubber with some decent pads, I bet it wouldn't do half bad at the track. Sure, not quite as hot as if it'd have an IRS, but who cares as long as the driver is having fun?
Your driving repertoire has all the relevance in the world here - you're so quick to thumb your nose about the "ancient" technology here, what makes YOU the guy everyone should listen to about these dinosaurs on wheels? Have you driven one on the track and found it so terrifying you couldn't stand it anymore, and needed something with an IRS?