View Single Post
Old 07-06-2015, 07:59 PM   #53 (permalink)
Red__Zed
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
Physics is physics. These friction concepts have been known since the time of Coulomb (18th century). You can prove the concept mathematically yourself using the formula I included above. Ffind the variable that represents contact area. (you can't....it doesn't exist)

Contact area has nothing to do with friction, and increasing contact area won't increase your traction. Now, if you're going to track the car, then you'll want wider tires for the same reason race cars use wider tires...to keep them from getting greasy when you really push them on the track. I'd be pretty surprised if more than a few people here on this forum had the skill to push their Z, even an FI Z, that hard on the track where the difference between 325's and 275's would affect your ability to run the car.

Coulomb's model hasn't been considered an accurate representation for pneumatic tires since...well...ever. His model works well for "hard" solids, not so much for sticky, deformative surfaces.

Contact area definitely does matter for systems like a tire on pavement. We've already establish that pretty clearly in the other threads where this has come up - both adhesive and deflective components rely on surface area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fricti..._Coulomb_model
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote