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Originally Posted by RayMaN
Lol.. Bro.. Murder is also "extreme" (more so than amputation even) so.. Him speeding a little.. Really shouldn't be compared to any of that..
In my personal experience.. Cops have straight up lied.. I was speeding, cop pulls me over and gives me a reckless driving ticket.. When I read the ticket.. It said (I'm being serious here) that I was driving in such a reckless manor that cars were swerving off the road to avoid me crashing into them.. I couldn't believe it.. Had to get a lawyer and go through the court stuff.. In the end.. Cop agreed to reduce it to careless driving rather than reckless..
Bull f***ing shi*.. Had to pay court fees, lawyer, the ticket itself.. And had to do a ridiculous amount of community service hours..
All because the cop decided to lie and punish me for a more severe offense than what I had actually done..
Another incident.. Was speeding (82 on a 70).. Cop pulls me over.. Tells me I was doing 90.. I tell him I actually had cruise control set to 82 so I wasn't going 90.. His response.. "Oh.. So you're admitting to speeding then" gave me the ticket for 90.. This might seem negligible (90 rather than 82).. But it's not.. Going more than 15 mph over gets you points and therefore higher insurance rates.. So rather than paying it and that's it (what I deserved).. I had to do the whole driving school crap to avoid the points on my license.. Again.. Just because a cop was a ****.
Sorry.. I have no respect for cops
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The murder thing was in regards to my dislike for defense attorneys. Which isn't extreme. Defense attorneys get people off for murder all the time for technicalities such as the infamous "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit". For real!? EVERYONE knew he did it (OJ Simpson if you don't know). I wasn't comparing his speeding to murder...
Im sorry you have had bad run ins with the police. But you having no respect for someone you don't know, because of a few bad apples is very ignorant. There are over 700,000 police officers in the states. All of them must be bad right? Thats like saying, "I had this tech at Firestone tell me my battery was bad, but I just got it. He was trying to jack me around! All mechanics are all liars!".
Me personally, every time I have been pulled over, I knew exactly why as soon as I saw the lights. I was in the wrong every single time. Most recently at ZDayZ. Other than that, I have never been harassed or lied on. I have never been treated badly.
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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel
I'm confused. What does your point have to do with mine? That I would be angry because the OP was speeding?
The point of my analogy of wrong amputation vs speeding is the principle of attention to detail, and not so much of the level/degree of severity between the two. Both require specific attention to detail. If the leo writes inaccurate information on a citation, how much credibility do you think s/he will have in court? A decent lawyer can likely get a speeding ticket dismissed without any typos/inaccuracies, thus I'm pretty sure that a decent lawyer could get an inaccurate ticket dismissed, under what you stated as a "technicality", which btw you just proved my point to be valid (i.e. getting off on a technicality), after calling it "garbage".
And yes, all because one letter/number/character is off, a lawyer could use that and possibly get the ticket dismissed, as you have stated, on a technicality.
Sure, officers know to calibrate their equipment, as they are trained to do so. Officers are humans as well and can get complacent, and most importantly, as you also have stated, humans (which includes leo's) can make mistakes.
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My point was from my original response of how stupid it can be to let someone off of a major crime for a trivial mistake of an officer, hence why I have a general dislike for defense attorneys.
I understood your analogy, however the severity of attention to detail in the situation you presented was very extreme in comparison to the speeding ticket. Which is why I went to the murder extreme.
We are arguing the same thing lol. Yes, a defense attorney can get you off of a crime that you committed on a technicality. Which as you have pointed out, I find as "garbage". On a speeding ticket, no big deal. Im sure that officer gives not a flip at all if the ticket is dismissed or held. But in cases that are more severe, where someone was actually victimized, that gets under my skin. How has justice been served on something like that? Could you explain to the victim of a violent crime "Hey look, I know that guy did it, but because a minor mistake was made in the investigation, we are letting him go."