Originally Posted by FPenvy

I love when manual drivers think that the AT owners only put the car in "D" and drive. then go on with comment like above about "falling asleep"



my car is never in "D", I make every shift, I shift more than manual drivers most likely, and I know that gearbox inside and out.

if the argument is engagement with the car go talk to the old guys who own a Z with a AT. that's about the only group it applies to. the argument is null and void. time to find another excuse MT boys.