Nissan 370Z Forum - View Single Post - How do you "sell" seat time over bolt-ons?

GSS138 · 02-17-2015, 12:19 PM

I'm kind of 50/50 on this idea myself. Having taken my car to the track fully OEM, and having done a lot since. Admittedly, some cars make better learning cars, I think ours is a decent middle of the road car to learn on. Not low HP, but not a 550 HP kill-a-noob-with-oversteer machine. It understeers like whoah, but that is actually safer for a beginner.

That being said, I kind of agree with what 350 is saying, a fast car, is just faster. And there is something a little more instinctual about driving a fast car, than trying to take a slow car and make it go faster. People sort of intuitively "get it" when they feel coilovers and springs vs an OEM spongey suspension. the feedback from a "fast car" is greater and more obvious, and feedback is what you need to learn.

Why not learn to drive a fast car first? Otherwise you end up in my situation, every time I go to the track it's like a new car lol.

I do like the typing example, it exemplifies a point. But really, wether you upgrade your car or not, there is a long learning curve ahead of you no matter which way you slice it. Seat time is the ultimate answer, but I can say from my own experience that I wish my car performed liked it does now from day 1. Some of it is because of seat time, but a lot of it is just the way the car feels now. It's lighter, better suspension, more power, better braking. It's honestly easier to drive.

02-17-2015, 12:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
GSS138 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 769 Drives: '12 370Z 6M Sport Rep Power: 13	I'm kind of 50/50 on this idea myself. Having taken my car to the track fully OEM, and having done a lot since. Admittedly, some cars make better learning cars, I think ours is a decent middle of the road car to learn on. Not low HP, but not a 550 HP kill-a-noob-with-oversteer machine. It understeers like whoah, but that is actually safer for a beginner. That being said, I kind of agree with what 350 is saying, a fast car, is just faster. And there is something a little more instinctual about driving a fast car, than trying to take a slow car and make it go faster. People sort of intuitively "get it" when they feel coilovers and springs vs an OEM spongey suspension. the feedback from a "fast car" is greater and more obvious, and feedback is what you need to learn. Why not learn to drive a fast car first? Otherwise you end up in my situation, every time I go to the track it's like a new car lol. I do like the typing example, it exemplifies a point. But really, wether you upgrade your car or not, there is a long learning curve ahead of you no matter which way you slice it. Seat time is the ultimate answer, but I can say from my own experience that I wish my car performed liked it does now from day 1. Some of it is because of seat time, but a lot of it is just the way the car feels now. It's lighter, better suspension, more power, better braking. It's honestly easier to drive. __________________ Current Mods: Vorpal Weapon +5. Last edited by GSS138; 02-17-2015 at 12:23 PM.