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Originally Posted by Blue Z34
First, lets get this out of the way... No credibile car magazine has even tested a 2015 nismo with the 6 speed. We don't really know how quick it is compared to the auto. And they changed the gearing this year for the auto and the manual so we can't go off past year nismos either. On top of that, car and driver said they still preferred the manual after testing the auto.
And there are plenty of sports cars that still sell more manuals than autos. I actually believe the Z is one of them. So the manual IS essential for some sports cars and will continue to be so. Those cars which have been taken over by autos certainly haven't been by ones that debuted in 2009..unless they're dual clutch.. which this isn't. And finally, to reiterate, we're talking about 0-60 and quarter mile times only..since that's the only time this auto is supposedly faster..in which case the question has to be raised: why are you shopping a Nismo Z if that's all you care about? That's not side stepping, that's taking the next logical step. The OP needs to get the sand out, be a man, and get the MANual.
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When they do test it, if the conclusion is that the AT is faster, I predict you will not change your argument. Likewise, I doubt you'll change your argument when the last of the three pedal traditional manuals vanish. Some people still prefer carburetors over fuel injection -- my beef is that when preference for ANYTHING becomes synonymous with "the right thing to do", we're no longer looking at things rationally or open mindedly.
In short, we'll simply have to agree to disagree, and that's okay by me.
However, hopefully you'll rethink your logic on the interpretation of what it means to use a MANual, otherwise you'll have to start seeing a physician about the inexplicable MENstrual cramps that will likely follow...
Oh, and while we're at it, just an FYI that you may not know: the famous Testarossa has
nothing to do with testes, like it sounds. It means "red head", a reference to the cam cover on the engine, and, allegedly, also a reference to wild, red headed women, not men. Go figure.
And our car is the "Fairlady", named after the musical, which was popular at the time. A musical about a chick who has to learn to be more graceful and ladylike. Not very manly at all.
Anyway, your line of reasoning has certainly stopped my counterargument in its tracks -- it's like any other faith based system; you can't debate it.
I'm sure your grandkids will find all of these conversations about transmissions being more or less indicative of manhood very confusing as they operate their ultra fast electric cars.
Well, speaking of manly or at least manual tasks, I need to go repair my busted washing machine today... hopefully this endeavor will help offset the emasculating shame of my girly 7AT. According to you, I probably have some sand in my underwear to wash out, so I'd better get to work...